Indian Sex

[Dave Lenton]

I've just realised that most of the time I see an Indian post on Javaranch, I have no idea what sex they are.

I've also just realised that it really doesn't matter, as long as I avoid using the second person.

[Dave Lenton]

By that I mean that most of the names I see are completely new to me, and unlike many European* names, I find it hard to guess if they are male or female.




* Apart from the French.

[Jim Yingst]

[Dave]: Indian Sex

And here I was expecting a thread on the Kama Sutra...

[Dave]: I've also just realised that it really doesn't matter, as long as I avoid using the second person.

I think that's the third person.

[Dave]: Apart from the French.

France. It's a different planet.

[Shaan Shar]

Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
I've just realised that most of the time I see an US/European post on Javaranch, I have no idea what sex they are.

Same with us from your side..

I always think Ilja is a girl's name.
[ November 10, 2006: Message edited by: Sharma Ji ]

[Chetan Parekh]

Originally posted by Sharma Ji:
I always think Ilja is a girl's name.

Sorry Ilja, but initially I felt the same.

[Angela Poynton]

So, aside from the allocation of pronouns, can anyone explain to me why it matters if we know the gender of the person whose post we are reading?

[Sandeep Ghosh]

If javaranch record how many times a thread is viewed, then this thread would be the most viewed thread in recent history.

[Dave Lenton]

Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
I think that's the third person.

Woops, yeah.

[Dave]: Apart from the French.

France. It's a different planet.

I always get confused with them. Dominique? Is that male or female?

[Dave Lenton]

Originally posted by Angela Poynton:
So, aside from the allocation of pronouns, can anyone explain to me why it matters if we know the gender of the person whose post we are reading?

No difference really, I was just spouting a bit of meaningless drivel. It's friday.

[Dave Lenton]

I had a male Romanian tutor at university called Marian. Apparently there is a way of pronouncing it which makes it a male name, and it is very much not how everyone at the university assumed it should be pronounced.
[ November 10, 2006: Message edited by: Dave Lenton ]

[Sundar Murthi]

Most of the indian girls name end with A , E, I, O , U,

[ November 10, 2006: Message edited by: Sundar Murthi ]

[Jaikiran Pai]

Originally posted by Rahul Sen:
If javaranch record how many times a thread is viewed, then this thread would be the most viewed thread in recent history.

I am sure, some of the moderators might have rushed to the "Delete Topic" button on seeing the title of this thread

[fred Joly]

Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
I always get confused with them. Dominique? Is that male or female?

It depends of the gender of the name bearer.
Is that so confusing ?

[Shaan Shar]

Originally posted by fred Joly:


It depends of the gender of the name bearer.
Is that so confusing ?

Great Going Fred.... again Confused

[fred rosenberger]

and English names (at least here in the U.S.) are not confusing at all...

Sam, Alex, Chris, Tony, Mel, Carry...

I have known men and women with each of these names, for example.

[Jesus Angeles]

I wonder if anyone know anyone named:

Bruno, and is a girl
Kitty, and is a guy

...what else...

I think gender of person can be derived from spanish names, at least some of them. If it ends in letter O, it is a guy, if A, it is a lady.

Francisco Francisca
Lauro Laura
Mario Maria
Carlo Carla

[ankur rathi]

Originally posted by Sundar Murthi:
Most of the indian girls name end with A , E, I, O , U,


[ November 10, 2006: Message edited by: Sundar Murthi ]

I am not too sure about all vowels.

But 99% right rule is, if 'I' is suffix then name belongs to girls.

Shruti, Bhakti, Meethi, Teekhi, Tedhi, Seedhi, Neeli, Peeli, Jahrili etc are the examples.

[Jaikiran Pai]

Originally posted by rathi ji:
But 99% right rule is, if 'I' is suffix then name belongs to girls.
Shruti, Bhakti, Meethi, Teekhi, Tedhi, Seedhi, Neeli, Peeli, Jahrili etc are the examples

What about "rathi"?

[Jaikiran Pai]

Originally posted by Rahul Sen:
If javaranch record how many times a thread is viewed, then this thread would be the most viewed thread in recent history.

Looks true. I havent been able to view the forums since the last several minutes. Have been getting

What in tarnation is going on?!

Sorry folks, but the Saloon is quite busy right now. Please try again in a few minutes.

Meanwhile, I'll go try to round up some fresh horses.

You can't rule out this thread for increasing the traffic

[Gail Schlentz]

Originally posted by Jim Yingst:


And here I was expecting a thread on the Kama Sutra...

Yes - how disappointing!!!

[Anand Prabhu]

Originally posted by Jim Yingst:

And here I was expecting a thread on the Kama Sutra...

Before I opened the thread, I thought that the thread was either on Kama Sutra, sex life of Indians or sex scenes in Bollywood movies. Damn, what a bummer!!!

[Paul Clapham]

A couple of years ago we had a woman named "Vijay" running in the city council elections where I live.

[Jignesh Patel]

A couple of years ago we had a woman named "Vijay" running in the city council elections where I live

That might be rarest example, 99.99% 'Vijay' is a male name.
And its so common that in many indian movies Heros' will have name 'Vijay'.

[Jim Yingst]

[Angela]: So, aside from the allocation of pronouns, can anyone explain to me why it matters if we know the gender of the person whose post we are reading?

Isn't the allocation of pronouns sufficient reason? It happens reasonably often that I am tempted to refer to a previous poster as "he" or maybe "she", but I intentionally avoid either one because I don't know for sure which is appropriate. Thus, knowing other posters' gender would make things slightly easier. It's not a big deal, it just creates a minor curiosity. I assume it's much the same for others here. There may be other motivations for some, but I wouldn't assume there's necessarily anything else beyond pronoun usage.

[Paul Clapham]

Singular "they" is a perfectly good usage for places where the gender of the antecedent is unknown.

[Jim Yingst]

Works in many cases, but sometimes it's confusing. Consider "Bob ate their dinner". Did Bob eat his own dinner, or dinner that really belonged to other people? To most of us, the name "Bob" is obviously male. Well, probably. So most of us would assume that use of the pronoun "they" implies an antecedant other than Bob. However someone unfamiliar with the name "Bob" may be using "they" simply because they don't know Bob's gender. Mildly confusing, no?

Also, it seems to me that usually when "they" is used as an indeterminate pronoun, it's because the person him-/her-/them-self is indeterminate. I.e. it's not merely a question of whether Bob is male or female, but whether it's Bob or Sue or Pat. Using "they" for a specific person is of unknown gender is not very common in my experience - and this contributes to the confusion exemplified in the previous paragraph.

[Guy Allard]

Originally posted by Dave Lenton:
... called Marian....

You from the States?

The actor John Wayne's real first name was Marion.

What's the diff between the a and the o? Does it denote sex like Frances/Francis?

[Jim Yingst]

[Guy]: You from the States?

Dave isn't, but I am.

[Guy]:

The actor John Wayne's real first name was Marion.

What's the diff between the a and the o? Does it denote sex like Frances/Francis?

Yes, usually (in the US at least, maybe elsewhere) Marion would be a man's name and Marian would be a woman's name. If there's any difference in pronunciaiton, it's very subtle - I might say the two names slightly differently, but I almost certainly would not notice a difference in someone else's pronunciation. Same with Frances/Frances, for me.

[Cameron Wallace McKenzie]

They're usually male or female.

[Steve Fahlbusch]

There was a an attempt afoot many years ago, when i was on the right (west) coast. It went something like this:

Him/Her = hir
He/She = sHe

[Stan James]

My partner in crime at work is Indian and he was surpised at the gender of a couple other Indian folks. We have a Lakshmi who is male and I forget the other but it turned out both had shortened longer names as nicknames and kind of made a gender jump, but didn't really care in the least.

I had a male teacher in high school named Sheryl (not Cheryl). I guess in Colonial days in New England names like Sheryl, Miriam and Evelyn were gender neutral. Not so much any more unless you're unfortunate enough to be named after a great uncle.

[Sundar Murthi]

Originally posted by Jaikiran Pai:


What about "rathi"?

It's 99% female name in south india.

[ankur rathi]

Originally posted by Sundar Murthi:


It's 99% female name in south india.

Pai and Murthi, should not be tough...
[ November 12, 2006: Message edited by: rathi ji ]

[Arjunkumar Shastry]

Originally posted by Paul Clapham:
A couple of years ago we had a woman named "Vijay" running in the city council elections where I live.

Rare.I think it should be short for Vijaya/Vijayalakshmi/Vijayashree/Vijayata.Except second, meaning of all is victory(or the one(she) who always brings victory).
Did she win the election?

[Arjunkumar Shastry]

Originally posted by Stan James:
My partner in crime at work is Indian and he was surpised at the gender of a couple other Indian folks.

There are some names which are common in male and females.like Kiran(sun ray)can be male or female.I think these types of names should not be more than dozen.
If male is Lakshmi,definitely its a short for Lakshmikant(husband of godess wealth i.e.Vishnu god)/Lakshminathan/Lakshmikanthan/Lakshmiprasad/Lakshminarayan

[Dave Lenton]

Originally posted by Guy Allard:
You from the States?

Nope, but while on the subject of the States and naming confusion, what's with all the bizarre names which Jerry Springer guests have? Do some people just take random words out of the dictionary and think "that'll make a great name"?

[Rahul Bhattacharjee]

FYI...
Rahul is a male name in this part of the world.

[Pradeep bhatt]

Originally posted by Arjunkumar Shastry:

There are some names which are common in male and females.like Kiran(sun ray)can be male or female.I think these types of names should not be more than dozen.
If male is Lakshmi,definitely its a short for Lakshmikant(husband of godess wealth i.e.Vishnu god)/Lakshminathan/Lakshmikanthan/Lakshmiprasad/Lakshminarayan

I think you have a big book with all Indian names listed ?