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Retiring J2SE 1.4 & Updating to Java SE 6 ... at the Ranch  RSS feed

 
James McLeod
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On October 30th, 2008, J2SE 1.4.2 officially reached its End of Service Life (EOSL). This means the direction and questions for the SCJP exam (CX-310-065) have changed and are (a little bit) more relavant to real life Java programming.

Gone are those bit-shifting (for example) reference questions to be replaced (in part) by autoboxing, generics, enhanced loops, typesafe enums, varargs, static import, and metadata. (Although I enjoy the Rules Roundup quizes, I would rather be tested on 'current' technology. A 100% in a mock exam where only about 80% are beneficial still leaves me at 80%.)

The 'Assignments' in the Cattle Drive are also stuck in Java 1.4x. I asked a question about an assignment and was 'scolded' by a Bartender for not following the 'rules' by using 1.4. What the ...? Why would anybody pay $200 for this series when it's outdated?

If Sun is true to form, in less than two years we'll be upgrading to Java SE 7 (or whatever they're going to call it). Java 6 will eventually become history also, and then 1.4 will be three or more versions in the past (and retired). Ouch!

Yet over-all I'm supportive of the JavaRanch concept. And, I want to suggest a solution ...

Make the upgrade to the current Java a project. Break it down into tasks and let the members of The Ranch participate in the revamping by breaking it into teams. It appears there's a lot of talent at The Ranch. Use it, and make it fun. (But, don't get rid of the old stuff ... just make it a well-marked option or alternative.)

I realize that upgrading is something that many orgranizations dread. It cost money and time (meaning more money). Yet it becomes necessary to stay some-what even with current world.

Although I'm rather new at Java, I'd be willing to contribute by proofing questions & answers. I found a few questions that could have used a second set of eyes to clear up their intent. The answers are another story.

Why, "Yes", I was once bitten by a rattlesnake.
 
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James,

Please send me a check for a million bucks and I'll get right on it!

The key is that we're all volunteers. Each volunteer does that which they think is fun.

Marilyn and I did spend a few days updating the cattle drive to 1.5. I guess we never finished it.

And the game: All of the questions and answers are stored in an XML file, perhaps you would like to compose some new questions?

I think that the only commitments I can make are those that I am going to do myself. And since I am currently about 200 emails behind just for this last week - and I have about 35 windows open with "todo" items .... well ... I can make no commitment for myself. But, naturally, you are welcome to try and inspire the staff. And, you can come up with bits and bobs that you can push to the staff.

In the meantime - do you like the new forum software? And we are getting new whizbangery in it nearly every week.



 
James McLeod
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Sheriff Paul Wheaton,

Assuming the concept of open-source runs deep at the Java Ranch, where can I find the pieces (particularly the XML file) which makes up the Roundup Game? I'll give it a shot.

This may be good for me ... I'm in the final month (or so) before taking the SCJP exam. Meaning that I'll be going through the 'book' one more time before taking all those practice exams I bookmarked in the past 4 months. (I'm shooting for 35 points more than what is required to pass.)

Will I need permission to pull apart questions found in the "Sun Certified Programmer for Java 6 Study Guide" from Kathy Sierra and Bert Bates to use as the backbone for questions I create? Keep in mind I'm rather new to Java and the Straw Man was a good friend of mine before he met The Wizard.

I suppose that if I take on this 'task' I'll need to solicit others. Do you have a suggestion as to which forum I use?

Why yes the new forum looks very nice. Unfortuneately I'm so new I don't remember what the old one looked like. Sorry.

The check for $1 million is in the mail. (But, don't hold your breath.)

 
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James,
I've sent you a private message with some related information. You can find it under the "My Private Messages" link at the top of the page.
 
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I can't remember if we put this source somewhere for everybody.

I just sent you a slice of the questions so you can see the format.

I suggest you make up your own questions with the help of the folks in the SCJP forum.


 
James McLeod
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Ulf Dittmer was able to help me locate the necessary file.

I have yet to receive either an email or private message from you. In fact, I never been notified when I select "Notify when a reply is posted". Is the process working or have I missed something in my setup?

Do I assume your reference to "the SCJP forum" is pointing me to the "Programmer Certification (SCJP)" forum under the "Professional Certification" forum?

Thanks for your help!
 
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James McLeod wrote:Ulf Dittmer was able to help me locate the necessary file.

I have yet to receive either an email or private message from you. In fact, I never been notified when I select "Notify when a reply is posted". Is the process working or have I missed something in my setup?

Do I assume your reference to "the SCJP forum" is pointing me to the "Programmer Certification (SCJP)" forum under the "Professional Certification" forum?

Thanks for your help!


James,

Check the email you have listed in your profile.

Yes, that is the forum I was thinking of.

 
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