If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for?
Student: That is it sir... The link between man & God is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for?
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Originally posted by Sidd Kulk:
You have a point, but one should have clear ideas about these things. You can't put your legs in two boats at a time.
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Originally posted by Ashok Mash:
If you think that second sentence justifies your first sentence, there is no point trying to explain my position to you! I have lost count of the number of spiritual books I have read, speeches I have heard that follow the similar logic - trying to make their point look good by adding something thats accepted as a fact - even though there is no real connection between these two.
Here's one for you : You don't have to be either an atheist or a theist. "Its not always just black or white".
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Originally posted by Fred Rosenberger:
Do you believe in Santa Claus?
I mean, nobody has ever PROVED his existance, or lack thereof.
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Originally posted by George Harris:
The way that I see it is nobody can prove that God exists. But the absence of proof is not proof that God does not exist.
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Ok, so let's use some of the OTHER laws then:A law of thermodynamics...
There are only two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors
A law of thermodynamics is that things tend toward entropy/disorder. e.g. If you build a house and just leave it alone, it will ultimately become goop.
I fully accept evolutionary theory (Darwin) but it is interesting to try and square it against the above law. Why should species strive to recreate in a world of disorder? Why do certain chemicals begin to assemble into proteins under certain conditions?
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Originally posted by Stan James:
I do have a problem with what's been called the "surplus of certainty" in some crowds.
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What really frustrates me is when people claim to have definitive answers which just can't be wrong.Originally posted by M Easter:
Although some people have a certain charm and warmth about their convictions, I generally distrust anyone who knows all the answers, no matter where they come down on The Big Questions.
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There's not? The speed of light in a vacuum isn't a fact? What about the Graviational constant?Yet in science and engineering, there are really no such things as facts
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Originally posted by Fred Rosenberger:
There's not? The speed of light in a vacuum isn't a fact? What about the Graviational constant?
Originally posted by M Easter:
I think "intelligent design", as I understand it, is a neat idea. It just should be in religion/philosophy classes and not replace science!
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Originally posted by Fred Rosenberger:
There's not? The speed of light in a vacuum isn't a fact? What about the Graviational constant?
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is that a fact?There really is no such thing as a fact
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Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
[Gregg]: One could argue that nearly every scientific fact is only fact until someone disproves said fact
As opposed to "facts" that continue to be facts long after they've been disproven?![]()
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Originally posted by stephen gates:
Everything changes. Science is based on theories. What is true today can be false tomorrow and vice versa. But I agree there are ways to prove and disprove something. But the truth of science is nobody knows the "truth" on how our planet was created or how it came to be.
There are big bang theories, evolutionary theories, the list goes on. Can we prove how earth was created? Can we prove where humans came from? Maybe one day we can, but at this moment in time, nobody knows what is "fact" and what is "fiction"
So,
Can we prove humans evolved from monkeys? Not today.
Can we prove Caveman evolved into what we are today? Not today.
Can we prove how Earth was really created? Not today.
Can we prove how dinosaurs really became extinct? Not today.
Can we prove chickens or alligators evolved from dinosaurs? Not today.
Can we prove there is life on other planets? Not today.
Can we prove Aliens really exist? Not today.
Can we prove atlantis existed/never existed? Not today.
Can we prove God exists/doesn't exist? Not today.
[ May 08, 2007: Message edited by: stephen gates ]
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