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Originally posted by Chunnard Singh II:
but Oracle being oracle this is will probably result in a hostile takeover attempt unless BEA buys back some of its shares to get itself back to owning 51% if they don't already.
Originally posted by Henry Wong:
I don't think it works that way. The only shares that get to vote are the outstanding shares.
Henry
I want to be like marc
Originally posted by Chunnard Singh II:
What are outstanding shares? I thought in a hostile takeover wasn't a democratic process in the sense if they can manage to buy majority stake they get to have the company? Couldn't oracle influence the larger investors? It seems they would have more to gain from this?
Originally posted by Cameron McKenzie:
I'd like to see a big move here. IBM has totally dropped the ball with WebSphere, refusing to release WebSphere 7, but instead, releasing a 6.1 version, and feature packs with which nobody is willing to go into production. I mean, they released IRAD 7 without the ability to create EJB 3.0 components to be deployed to WebSphere 7, largely because WebSphere 7 doesn't exist, and perhaps, never will.
Originally posted by Jignesh Patel:
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And for your guess of IBM buying BEA ---, I don't know why do they buy the weblogic, which is not as efficient as their technology.
So from technical point of IBM will not gain but loose, on the contrarary Oracle will gain a lot.
I want to be like marc
Originally posted by Chunnard Singh II:
I find weblogic to have the best tech support. and always at the bleeding edge..I also think BEA pays more attention to all its customers. I asked for a Trial of Rational Architect, and 10 weeks have passed and still nothing. I asked the same of the BEA server and within 5 days it was at my door step. .
Oracle wouldn't want weblogic if it didn't think it was a fine product. As long as its in the top 3 everything should be OK. From an investor point of view though I think they would like to see the deal happen
"You must have been drinking too much again, he said abstemiously."Originally posted by Cameron McKenzie:
(By the way, did you know that the word facetiously is the only word in the English language that has every vowel in order, with the exception of the vowel 'w', that is. And yes, 'w' is a vowel!)
Sure, BEA turned them down, but that's a standard first move in a situation like this. Oracle fired the first salvo, and publicly, BEA stood tall. Still, I'm sure that there's alot of people in the BEA camp that are looking for a white knight to pull them out of all of their 'options and accounting problems', and help them win back the marketshare they are losing from IBM WebSphere and JBoss.
Originally posted by Jignesh Patel:
When around 80% market is moving in the Websphere direction.
Originally posted by Ulf Dittmer:
Can you point us to a source for that number, or tell us what exactly you mean by it? It seems questionable to me.
# 37.2% - IBM Web Sphere
# 37.0% - JBoss Application Server
# 27.2% - BEA WebLogic
# 27.2% - Oracle 8iAS, 9iAS, 10gAS
# 19.7% - Sun Java Enterprise System
# 6.8% - Macromedia/Adobe JRun
# 3.9% - Borland AppServer or Enterprise Server
# 2.1% - Orion Server
# 2.0% - Sybase EAserver
# 1.8% - Apple WebObjects
# 1.4% - Novell eXtend
# 0.9% - IONA Orbix or ASP
I want to be like marc
I want to be like marc
Originally posted by Mark Spritzler:
Yeah, I was quite shocked that you guys completely forgot that JBoss was one of the top three.
I would have mentioned it myself, but would be too biased.
True it must be much better then Oracle App Server. And noway it is a bad product otherwise they must not be in top 3. But the question is in top 3 are they better then IBM and JBoss???
Originally posted by Cameron McKenzie:
with the exception of the vowel 'w', that is. And yes, 'w' is a vowel!)
Joanne
Joanne
Why can't BEAor IBM guys copy and implement JBoss if JBoss is efficient
Originally posted by Sandip Sankeshwar:
JBoss is now purchased by Red Hat,right?
Why can't BEAor IBM guys copy and implement JBoss if JBoss is efficient? :roll: I called JBoss Bangalore office and they are not picking the phone.I will go this week for asking them about training.
Originally posted by Sandip Sankeshwar:
I will go this week for asking them about training.
I want to be like marc
Originally posted by Pradip Bhat:
He is joking about the training.
I want to be like marc
Regards Pete
Regards Pete
Helping hands are much better than the praying lips
Originally posted by Rambo Prasad:
I think Big companies should stop this acquisition spree...It reduces the choice of companies for job hoppers..
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