Are there indeed advantages to skinning a cow while it's still alive? That is indeed counter-intuitive; I would have thought dead cows to be much more cooperative.Originally posted by Anita Rag:
I live in the US. I have been a meat-eater all my life.. BUT, I somehow got myself interested in industrial farming practices, and what I saw has made me a temporary vegetarian.
So, I am not against eating meat - I just don't like the idea of the torture and cruelty involved it. If an animal/fish was grown in its normal environment, and killed cleanly and quickly, I don't mind eating it. Long story short - how do I get this kind of meat. Should I look for "free range"? it seems like it is very loosely defined by USDA.
ps: But I will probably never again wear leather, or buy products that involved testing on animals. Those wretched cows that were skinned alive, and blind rabbits and screaming monkeys will haunt me for the rest of my life, I think.
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But I will probably never again wear leather
Originally posted by Anita Rag:
and what I saw has made me a temporary vegetarian.
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Did you visit a farm or a slaughterhouse and see something firsthand? Were you given a video that was created by some particular organization?
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Helping hands are much better than the praying lips
Helping hands are much better than the praying lips
Originally posted by Shiv Sidhaarth:
Non-veg eaters generally get the wild life vibrations from animals.
Originally posted by Shiv Sidhaarth:
Read this Virtues of Vegetarianism
Helping hands are much better than the praying lips
Originally posted by Marc Peabody:
I don't think you gave a source for HOW you saw what you saw. Did you visit a farm or a slaughterhouse and see something firsthand? Were you given a video that was created by some particular organization?
Originally posted by Rambo Prasad:
Just curious to know if Vegetarianism has a good following outside India?Are there any non Indian Veg ranchers here...
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Avishkar Nikale wrote:
They too feel the pain, its just they dont have a tongue & sound-box.
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Richard Golebiowski wrote:I'm satisfied with my place on the food chain!
As food for parasites?
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In the U.S. beef is HEAVILY subsidized. It should probably cost about $40 / lb.
A pound of beef requires about 3000 gallons of fresh water to produce.
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A well hunted animal won't have huge amounts of adrenaline in it's flesh like a slaughterhouse animal does.
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Bert Bates wrote:- Costs: The numbers I stated are based on a long view; what's the 'cost' of topsoil erosion, what's the 'cost' of depleted aquifers, what's the 'cost' of subsidized monocultures like corn?
It's true that some small percentage of cows are grass fed. A lot of that occurs on BLM land.
the problem is that a small percentage of animals are "well harvested".
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Richard Golebiowski wrote:Where I live, all of the cattle are free range and eat grass.
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Bert Bates wrote:- A pound of beef requires about 3000 gallons of fresh water to produce.
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Bert Bates wrote:Perhaps we're both guilty of a little conflation
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Bert Bates wrote:I don't mind the idea that I need to buy a different toilet as much as I mind the fact that no government official ever talks about perhaps chowing down a just a few fewer burgers...
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