Originally posted by Mark Spritzler:
What about Happy Birthday, definitely sung at least once a day.![]()
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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
Wikipedia backs up my memory, which is that the Guiness Book of World Records gives this distinction to the Beatles' "Yesterday".
Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
Hmm, OK. So we need to define our terms. Define "covered".
Originally posted by Ben Souther:
To perform, record, or publish a written arrangement for.
Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
Ok, you said record and "Yesterday" was recorded more than any other song. How is your "covered" different from EFH's "recorded"?
Originally posted by Ben Souther:
To perform, record, or publish a written arrangement for.
Originally posted by Ben Souther:
You can cover a song without recording it.
"Cover bands" play popular songs all the time without recording them.
Originally posted by Mike Simmons:
That's a good point, but I think it becomes impossible to count the performances then.
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Originally posted by Ben Souther:
Because record is only one of three.
You can cover a song without recording it.
"Cover bands" play popular songs all the time without recording them.
We've only been able to record sound since the late 1800s.
(I'm assuming that, when Guiness says 'record' they are referring to an audio recording).
Hmm..
It was possible to publish piano rolls, mechanical bell ringers, and music boxes before then. I wonder if Guiness counted those.
I have lost mine that way. It must be in some secret location at my parent's home for 20 years now. Can't remember where I've hidden it.Originally posted by Cameron Wallace McKenzie:
I cover up my Thriller album every time someone looks through my record collection.
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Originally posted by Gregg Bolinger:
But you said or implying that any of the 3 would count.![]()
Originally posted by Jan Cumps:
I have lost mine that way. It must be in some secret location at my parent's home for 20 years now. Can't remember where I've hidden it.
[ March 07, 2008: Message edited by: Jan Cumps ]
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Life wasn't easy in the eighties.Originally posted by Elaine Micheals:
Am I the only one bothered by the thought of these secret, hidden away Michael Jackson albums?...
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Originally posted by Mike Simmons:
Yes, and that's what's different about Ben's definition of cover. He counts performances and publications, and EFH's definition does not.
Ben: It's true that cover bands don't necessarily record the songs they cover. But does an orchestra do a cover of Beethoven's 5th symphony? I've never heard the term used that way. But I'm not sure where the distinction should be here. This problem exists even if we exclude performances and only consider recordings. No one refers to classical recordings as covers. Maybe we should just exclude classical music. Maybe jazz too. But then it's not really fair to start including nonwestern music - we're making an arbitrary list of genres at that point.
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Originally posted by marc weber:
Since then, the meaning has expanded to include performances of songs by anyone other than the "original" artist (although it's often not clear what exactly that means).
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Originally posted by Ernest Friedman-Hill:
Yeah, I think this is a slippery slope. ...
Originally posted by Ben Souther:
Assuming there isn't a name for such a phenomenon, but the concept can be easily distinguished from 'covered', recorded, or whatever singing Happy Birthday is; is there a song that goes back further and/or surpasses Greensleeves in this respect? Maybe a Greek, Hebrew, or Asian song that an untraveled westerner like me wouldn't have heard? Is there one in western culture that that would beat out Greensleeves?
Originally posted by Alan Wanwierd:
By contrast, in popular music (and jazz) we tend to notice the primarily the performer and not so much the writer (where 2 are not one and the same).
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