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Hi

I'm a moroccam men and i'm interested to pass scea ,i want to know if when i obtain the scea certification is easy to find an architect java/j2ee job in europe or north america the problem is i don't have professionnal experience and i ask you now if when i obtain scea certification can i find a job with this certification?

and thanks you for your answers
 
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NO
 
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Experience is certainly what gets you good architect jobs. So, SCEA might not secure a job, but it will help you get a foot in the door.

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I will move this to the Job Discussion forum.

I think that just getting the SCEA certificate, but not having real job experience, will not make it really easy to get a job.
 
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Experience is the key. Use your experience, problem solving, and analytical skills at your current work to make visible contributions. Network with the other architects to see if you can get a foot in the door. SCEA can help you improve your knowledge and understanding. But you don't have to have an SCEA to work as an architect. I would also encourage you to observe the other architects and have role models to learn from. Start thinking like one and constantly develop the necessary skills.
 
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Thank you for your responses but if i don't have experiences and i hold a scea certificate and want to work as architect is impossible or what?
 
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for example i want to work as beginner architect it is possible or not?
 
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said sghire wrote:for example i want to work as beginner architect it is possible or not?



You can't become Architect in a day or months. So you should start your career as developer and grow up as Architect.
 
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said sghire wrote:for example i want to work as beginner architect it is possible or not?


First understand what are roles and responsibilities of an Architect. Do SCEA if you have interest and check if you can handle those roles and responsibilities. You will be able answer this question yourself.
 
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Without trying to discourage you, from my view, every developer thinks that he or she is an architect or a designer. This is not a bad thing, but only a few really understand all the aspects of designing a complexsystem. This does not come easily. This does not come by preparing or sitting for an examination. The main ingredient is experience, but it is not the only ingredient. Just because someone has 6+ years of experience, he/she cannot be a good architect. Some do have real 6 years of experience whilst others have 2 years repeated 3 times.

So, to be a good architect, one should have experience, proven track record of designing software with the good understanding of the key areas, good engineering skills (analytical, problem solving, researching, methodical, etc), good soft skills like team work, commuincation skills, etc and personal attributes like being pro-active, positive, etc. This is not only true to become a good architect, but also to become a good calibre developer.


Writing and passing an exam has its purpose, but to be really successful in ones field, much more needs to be done. Writing an exam is just a start and one can make that start even without writing exams. So passing an exam is alone not going to cut it. One needs to have a proven track record of "successful application" of what he or she learnt in those exams. One can learn a lot "if pro-active enough" on the job while gaining experience. While gaining experience, build the analytical mind to ask questions like


"Why should this be done this way?" , "Are there any alternative approaches this?" , "What if an exception is thrown here?", Is there a design pattern to be used here? What is the best practice on this? and so on. Try to learn the theory or fundamental behind it and apply it in your regular work. Talk to your mentors about this and gain some insights.

 
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Yes, I agree with arulk, experience definetely comes into picture. With theorithical knowledge, all scenerios cannot be resolved.
 
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Hi Ba Said,

I am Moroccan myself, and I know where you came from. In Morocco, we value the degrees and certifications more than we should, In USA and I guess in Europe is what you can do to the company, your degree and certification helps but not as much as in Morocco.
So I would suggest for you to start with build your skills as a good programmer, then as a good developer and finally as an architect if you feel like it. But now is the good time to start and it's journey of years not months.

Bonne chance.
 
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