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SCJP 5 has changed

 
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Hello,

Yesterday I cleared the SCJP 5 and I was very surprised. The question numbers has changed from 72 to 60 and time from 175 to 180. That means the difficulty of the exam has become greater. I cleared the SCJP 5 but without one of the greatest scores.
Now I am trying to access the sun certmanager database but I get rejected. Should I wait for some days before I am added to the database?

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Benhamid Adil wrote:The question numbers has changed from 72 to 60 and time from 175 to 180. That means the difficulty of the exam has become greater.


It sounds like they're asking fewer questions and giving more time. Wouldn't this make it easier, rather than harder?
 
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No logically it's not. If there were fewer questions and fewer time may be. Burt as you have more time per questiosn 3min/question against 2.4min/question before, this means the difficulty has rised and I noticed thsi yesterday
 
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May be its a sign of retiring them soon ?
 
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Mock exam developers would have to update their products
 
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Benhamid Adil wrote:No logically it's not. If there were fewer questions and fewer time may be. Burt as you have more time per questiosn 3min/question against 2.4min/question before, this means the difficulty has rised and I noticed thsi yesterday



Hm. I am assuming that the questions themselves have not changed, because (a) no one has stated they have changed, and (b) I know from experience that this sort of thing takes a lot of work. But I think the only way I can see for your statement to make any sense is if you believe that the questions have changed, that they've been made more difficult, and the other changes (the changes that you actually did describe) were made to offset this increased difficulty.

If Sun wanted to make the exam more difficult, the easiest way would be to use some combination of:
- increase the number of questions
- decrease the available time
- raise the required score to pass

Conversely, if Sun wanted to make the exam easier, the easiest way would be to use some combination of:
- decrease the number of questions
- increase the available time
- lower the required score to pass

For each of the above scenarios, I did not include the possibility of writing new questions. Because that is much more work than the other three options.

However, if Sun actually had a completely different goal, such as maybe Sun wanted to make life more difficult for certain lazy, evil people who try to pass the exam by exchanging info on test questions rather than, oh, learning to program in Java perhaps... well in that case, Sun would need to write new questions. And then after having written new questions, they might then adjust the number of questions, or the time, or the passing score, to compensate for changes in difficulty of the new questions. Maybe this is the scanario you are imagining.

 
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Benhamid Adil wrote:No logically it's not. If there were fewer questions and fewer time may be. Burt as you have more time per questiosn 3min/question against 2.4min/question before, this means the difficulty has rised and I noticed thsi yesterday



Hm. I am assuming that the questions themselves have not changed, because (a) no one has stated they have changed, and (b) I know from experience that this sort of thing takes a lot of work. But I think the only way I can see for your statement to make any sense is if you believe that the questions have changed, that they've been made more difficult, and the other changes (the changes that you actually did describe) were made to offset this increased difficulty.

If Sun wanted to make the exam more difficult, the easiest way would be to use some combination of:
- increase the number of questions
- decrease the available time
- raise the required score to pass

Conversely, if Sun wanted to make the exam easier, the easiest way would be to use some combination of:
- decrease the number of questions
- increase the available time
- lower the required score to pass

For each of the above scenarios, I did not include the possibility of writing new questions. Because that is much more work than the other three options.

However, if Sun actually had a completely different goal, such as maybe Sun wanted to make life more difficult for certain lazy, evil people who try to pass the exam by exchanging info on test questions rather than, oh, learning to program in Java perhaps... well in that case, Sun would need to write new questions. And then after having written new questions, they might then adjust the number of questions, or the time, or the passing score, to compensate for changes in difficulty of the new questions. Maybe this is the scanario you are imagining.



You are complicating things as I can see:
- Most of mock simulators suggest different level : Expert, intermediate, Novice.....
- Sun should have same kind on engines
But nothing is sure




 
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