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Struts or JSTL and what about java faces?

 
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Is it worth using struts in the light of JSTL and Java Faces (I know that they were heavily influenced by Struts <cough>rip-off</cough>
what extra does struts offer?
 
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In fact, they can all live very comfortably together. JSTL and JF would only replace the tags used by Struts but would not replaace the Struts architecture.
 
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...nor the Struts ActionServlet & co.
Guys, do you think that there will be a standard interfaces (JSR) for the Action framework implemented by Struts? Or is there a competing alternative arising?
 
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Take a look at this page for information on how JavaServer Faces and JSTL affects Struts today and in the future.
 
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Chris, thanks for the link but it still didn't reveal to me how future developments will affect the use of the Struts Action framework?
Apologies for the possibly flawed term -- By "Action framework" I mean the ActionServlet, Action, ActionForm, etc. classes/interfaces; the essential stuff.
 
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I don't think all of these decisions (regarding the future of Struts and JavaServer Faces) have been made by the Struts Project Team yet.
My current understanding is that a set of integration class which implement the JavaServer Faces spec will be made by wrapping existing Struts components. Therefore, existing Struts Applications will function normally, and moving forward developers could code against the JSF API instead of explicitly using the Struts classes. However, I would be highly surprised if the first version of JSF has anywhere near the functionality of the current version of Struts and I wouldn't be overly surprised to see many stick directly to Struts. Typically, the first version of any spec is a bit weak, however JSF may be a bit different since it is being led by Craig McClanahan (the creator of Struts).
 
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