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AOJWD: Why InternetBeans Express?

 
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Hi Neal,
Looking thru the table of contents for your book I see that you cover many different types of web frameworks including one commercial framework: InternetBeans Express. The other frameworks you cover are quite obviously best of breed products, however InternetBeans Express in start contrast is not.
From the information on your website and Google I gather that InternetBeans Express is a web framework created by Borland and available to JBuilder Pro/Enterprise users. However, with the addition of the Struts integration that Borland is putting into the recent releases of JBuilder, it looks as though support for InternetBeans Express is being phased out.
I understand the desire to cover a commercial product in contrast to the myriad of OSS Frameworks you cover... but what made you choose this particular one as opposed to something like Expresso?
[ February 11, 2004: Message edited by: Chris Mathews ]
 
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Just a quick comment on InternetBeans (IxBeans in JBuilder parlance IIRC). I've had the displeassure of having to integrate an app made with InternetBeans into another web app. All I can say is... Ugh! The IxBeans certainly didn't make life any easier for me.
More on topic, I did find it a pleasant surprise that a book addressed the topic of IxBeans, although if I have anything to say about it I will never work with them again.
[ February 11, 2004: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]
 
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I understand the desire to cover a commercial product in contrast to the myriad of OSS Frameworks you cover... but what made you choose this particular one as opposed to something like Expresso?


Actually, it is only incidental that InternetBeans Express is commercial. I wanted to cover a RAD framework and it certainly is that. At the end of the day, it violates many of the principles that I espouse in the book. However, to give it credit, the application I created with IxBeans took less time than any of the other apps I created. It shows the Dark and Bright side of RAD (which is generally falling from favor because of the very reasons I state in the book).
I considered Expresso, but it is heavily based on Struts, and I already covered it.
 
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