SunMicrosystems VS Microsoft

[Vishal Hegde]

Which iss the best company on performance basis ?? and if i want to enter in these companies how should i do it.i mean besides my stupid graduation what else do i need to do in order to prove that i fit into the crowd of Microsoft or SunMicrosystems employees

[Joe San]

Were you sleeping all these days?? Do you know that there is no Sun Microsystems and that it had been bought by Oracle???

[Vishal Hegde]

Owwwwwww ohhkk i had no idea jothi thanks for the info really not interested in reading hisotry of comapany craps,jyust love the technology they bring out

[Muse Ran]

post your resume
1. For microsoft - welcome_buddy
2. Sun micro or oracle (whatever) - welcome_buddy

all the best

[Vishal Hegde]

Muse Ran wrote:post your resume
1. For microsoft - welcome_buddy
2. Sun micro or oracle (whatever) - welcome_buddy

all the best

ohh that one thing i know post your resume ,but how to make them select us,how to make my self different from the crowd,what stuff to study and what not

[Hussein Baghdadi]

Really meaningless post

[Piyush Patel]

i feel nothing special about MS ! (my personal opinion)
but yeah i would really like to thank Sun Micro for making of Java Open Source
on the other hand Selfish MS...

please note its my opinion ! ;)

[Pat Farrell]

Piyush Patel wrote:thank Sun Micro for making of Java Open Source

Do you really think that Sun did this out of the goodness of their heart? Not a chance. They fought the release of Java and the JVM for a decade or more. The point of Java was to have something that would not require MS Windows. Write once, run everywhere. It never made that claim real, and it failed to kill Microsoft. But if you think that they releases Java for the good of mankind, I have a bridge to Brooklyn that I'll gladly sell you.

[Piyush Patel]

Pat Farrell wrote:if you think that they releases Java for the good of mankind, I have a bridge to Brooklyn that I'll gladly sell you.

[Pat Farrell]

Piyush Patel wrote:

Pat Farrell wrote:if you think that they releases Java for the good of mankind, I have a bridge to Brooklyn that I'll gladly sell you.

The Brooklyn Bridge goes from Manhattan to Brooklyn within New York City. For over 100 years, con men and crooks have offered to sell the Brooklyn Bridge to the gullible.

I don't own the Brooklyn Bridge, but if you want to give me money, I'll take it.

Sun did not put Java out in public for the purpose of greater peace and kindness. They did it for money. Period.

[Piyush Patel]

Pat Farrell wrote:Sun did not put Java out in public for the purpose of greater peace and kindness. They did it for money. Period.

Its obvious for anyone to make money with technology, but making it OpenSource ( 'm not getting reason behind making it open source)
what i thought was , they were very kind, humble Human Beings who belived in technology for all......

[Mike Simmons]

Perhaps I can interest you in some Florida real estate?

[Pat Farrell]

Or beach front property in Arizona, since California is sure to fall into the Pacific Ocean.

[Piyush Patel]

Pat Farrell wrote:since California is sure to fall into the Pacific Ocean.

[Vishal Hegde]

Atleast java provided us with an open source,now thats soomething like giving scholarsip tro the needy ones

[Ulf Dittmer]

This topic cracks me up.

[Vishal Hegde]

Ulf Dittmer wrote:This topic cracks me up.

Cracksd me up as in makes you angry ??

[Ernest Friedman-Hill]

Vishal Hegde wrote:

Ulf Dittmer wrote:This topic cracks me up.

Cracksd me up as in makes you angry ??

That's an idiom that means "makes me laugh".

[marc weber]

Vishal Hegde wrote:...besides my stupid graduation what else do i need to do in order to prove that i fit into the crowd of Microsoft or SunMicrosystems employees

Excellent question.

Microsoft has 93,000 employees worldwide and annual revenue of $58.437 billion. Oracle (after acquiring Sun Microsystems) has 101,950 employees worldwide and annual revenue of $23.252 billion. Thus, each Microsoft employee represents $628,000 of revenue, and each Oracle employee represents $228,000 of revenue; making a Microsoft employee nearly 3 times as valuable as an Oracle employee.

But the question is really about your individual contribution. To set yourself apart, you need to offer more than expertise or experience. You need to offer something tangible to the bottom line. For example, if you're willing and able, you might insist on bringing your own office supplies -- pens, paper, highlighters, paperclips, etc. On average, office supplies cost $30-$40 per employee per month (ref: Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce). Make it your goal to reduce personal office supply costs by $20 per month. Emphasize that if your model is implemented company-wide, this would represent annual savings of $22,320,000 to Microsoft or $24,468,000 to Oracle, which equates to 0.038% of Microsoft's revenue or 0.105% of Oracle's revenue. In these terms, your initiative can have nearly 3 times the impact at Oracle.

[ankur rathi]

marc weber wrote:

Vishal Hegde wrote:...besides my stupid graduation what else do i need to do in order to prove that i fit into the crowd of Microsoft or SunMicrosystems employees

Excellent question.

Microsoft has 93,000 employees worldwide and annual revenue of $58.437 billion. Oracle (after acquiring Sun Microsystems) has 101,950 employees worldwide and annual revenue of $23.252 billion. Thus, each Microsoft employee represents $628,000 of revenue, and each Oracle employee represents $228,000 of revenue; making a Microsoft employee nearly 3 times as valuable as an Oracle employee.

But the question is really about your individual contribution. To set yourself apart, you need to offer more than expertise or experience. You need to offer something tangible to the bottom line. For example, if you're willing and able, you might insist on bringing your own office supplies -- pens, paper, highlighters, paperclips, etc. On average, office supplies cost $30-$40 per employee per month (ref: Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce). Make it your goal to reduce personal office supply costs by $20 per month. Emphasize that if your model is implemented company-wide, this would represent annual savings of $22,320,000 to Microsoft or $24,468,000 to Oracle, which equates to 0.038% of Microsoft's revenue or 0.105% of Oracle's revenue. In these terms, your initiative can have nearly 3 times the impact at Oracle.

These kind of ideas create bad (cheap) workplace. IMO, it'll reduce productivity...

[Maneesh Godbole]

ankur rathi wrote:
These kind of ideas create bad (cheap) workplace. IMO, it'll reduce productivity...

I once told my boss that Cheerleaders in skimpy outfits doing their stuff down the aisles in the office was a sure shot way to boost productivity.

[Prateek Parekh]

I am sorry but someone took the "title" of this forum quite literally : )

[Vishal Hegde]

Prateek Parekh wrote:I am sorry but someone took the "title" of this forum quite literally : )

Please eelaborate

[marc weber]

ankur rathi wrote: ...it'll reduce productivity...

If I may clarify... The fact that we cite "productivity" as a critical metric in terms of nominal performance measurements should not be misconstrued to imply meaning. In fact, there is no tangible value in "productivity." (If there were, we would not need elaborate decks to demonstrate otherwise.) Rather, the ability to babble incoherently while maintaining and projecting any semblance of sincerity is the sole driver of executive fortitude. This inestimable capacity shall dictate your advancement, if not your very survival, in said environs. Which brings us back to slides 33-41, and especially slide 72, "Beyond stupid graduation: What else you need..." Verily, I repeat myself. But now we can all appreciate the impetus.

[marc weber]

I should also mention, as always, I consider it an honor just to be nominated.

[Ernest Friedman-Hill]

I think the Oracle always had Java to go with the cookies. And they were awesome cookies. Just remember -- there is no spoon.

[Arvind Mahendra]

marc weber wrote:

Vishal Hegde wrote:...besides my stupid graduation what else do i need to do in order to prove that i fit into the crowd of Microsoft or SunMicrosystems employees

Excellent question.

Microsoft has 93,000 employees worldwide and annual revenue of $58.437 billion. Oracle (after acquiring Sun Microsystems) has 101,950 employees worldwide and annual revenue of $23.252 billion. Thus, each Microsoft employee represents $628,000 of revenue, and each Oracle employee represents $228,000 of revenue; making a Microsoft employee nearly 3 times as valuable as an Oracle employee.

But the question is really about your individual contribution. To set yourself apart, you need to offer more than expertise or experience. You need to offer something tangible to the bottom line. For example, if you're willing and able, you might insist on bringing your own office supplies -- pens, paper, highlighters, paperclips, etc. On average, office supplies cost $30-$40 per employee per month (ref: Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce). Make it your goal to reduce personal office supply costs by $20 per month. Emphasize that if your model is implemented company-wide, this would represent annual savings of $22,320,000 to Microsoft or $24,468,000 to Oracle, which equates to 0.038% of Microsoft's revenue or 0.105% of Oracle's revenue. In these terms, your initiative can have nearly 3 times the impact at Oracle.

That's awesome

[Brad Dwan]

Maneesh Godbole wrote:

ankur rathi wrote:
These kind of ideas create bad (cheap) workplace. IMO, it'll reduce productivity...

I once told my boss that Cheerleaders in skimpy outfits doing their stuff down the aisles in the office was a sure shot way to boost productivity.

haha, doubt it though. After getting distracted from, for lack of a better word, a project that has required your complete focus, generally speaking it takes an average of 15-20 minutes for a person to reacquire said focus; focus facilitates productivity. So having barely clothed women walking up and down the halls will cause a, especially a programming centric industry, dramatic fall in productivity.

Now let me just say, I would NOT complain, but it would be kind of annoying half the team being gone for 30 minutes at a time... :P

marc weber wrote:

ankur rathi wrote: ...it'll reduce productivity...

If I may clarify... The fact that we cite "productivity" as a critical metric in terms of nominal performance measurements should not be misconstrued to imply meaning. In fact, there is no tangible value in "productivity." (If there were, we would not need elaborate decks to demonstrate otherwise.) Rather, the ability to babble incoherently while maintaining and projecting any semblance of sincerity is the sole driver of executive fortitude. This inestimable capacity shall dictate your advancement, if not your very survival, in said environs. Which brings us back to slides 33-41, and especially slide 72, "Beyond stupid graduation: What else you need..." Verily, I repeat myself. But now we can all appreciate the impetus.

bahahaha

[Arvind Mahendra]

Vishal Hegde wrote:Which iss the best company on performance basis ?? and if i want to enter in these companies how should i do it.i mean besides my stupid graduation what else do i need to do in order to prove that i fit into the crowd of Microsoft or SunMicrosystems employees

Worship Mr Gates everyday, go out of your way to support MS, get the words "The best is yet to come" tattooed on your back and you should be able to sniff out and finish off any traitors within the organization.

[Jesper de Jong]

marc weber wrote:Emphasize that if your model is implemented company-wide, this would represent annual savings of $22,320,000 to Microsoft or $24,468,000 to Oracle, which equates to 0.038% of Microsoft's revenue or 0.105% of Oracle's revenue. In these terms, your initiative can have nearly 3 times the impact at Oracle.

Wow, this is a great idea! Tell the boss that you have an idea to save more than $20 million. And tell him you want $2 million of the money that's saved! How can he refuse, he will still be saving millions of dollars!

[Jeanne Boyarsky]

Vishal,
If this is a serious question, please repost in our Jobs Discussion forum for serious replies.

Ernest,
Mmm. Cookies.

[marc weber]

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:...for serious replies...

What?

[Vishal Hegde]

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Vishal,
If this is a serious question, please repost in our Jobs Discussion forum for serious replies.

Ernest,
Mmm. Cookies.

naaa its okkk i am still a kiddo (though i am 21 yrs old ,still have brain of a child)


Jeanne nice pic of urs myou look much more younger then me