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Which app server provides the best portal implementation? Oracle,BEA,Weblogic or any other?

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I vote for WebSphere

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Originally posted by David Ulicny:
I vote for WebSphere



Why?

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I vote for WebSphere as well.

IBM provides lots of functionality for portal development, and lots of plugins to assist developing Portal applications using WSAD 5.1.1.

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Why?


How about you? What is your preference?

In fact, I cant really think of any other good implementation for Portal, except WAS and WSAD.

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Originally posted by Nicholas Cheung:

How about you? What is your preference?

In fact, I cant really think of any other good implementation for Portal, except WAS and WSAD.

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I have worked with Oracle Portal. Have you worked with other portals other than WAS>?

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Because I love WebSphere products
I'm daily working with WSAD and WAS, excelent tool, I'm not very experienced with portal solutions, but I suppose it will be great .

I must learn about portlets and portals in general.
I have a little experience with JetSpeed.

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I've just started a Portal Development project, which is based on ATG Dynamo Portal... Well, this is just my first hand-on real project on Portal development...

It's good... I've not used others before... Just my 2 cents...

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I have worked with Oracle9i Portal2Go, however, I feel it is not that user friendly.

After moving to WSAD, I feel the 2 products are came from two different worlds.

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On which type of project are you using portal solution?

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And what about HW requirements? WebSphere need a lot of resources.

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On which type of project are you using portal solution?


A banking application that needs to gather various info for the users, including stocks, FX, MSCI, etc.

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In my PC, when i run WebSphere Server and WebSphereIDE that it's use resource very much. (In my PC :: RAM 1 GB and CPU 2.5 GHz)

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And what about HW requirements? WebSphere need a lot of resources.


For Server, WAS 5 is already better than WAS 4.x, and for client, WSAD 5.1.2 is already used less resouces compare to the previous versions.

In the past, when I used WSAD 5.0, if I open 2 WSADs, my machine nearly hangs. (My PC is 2.4G CPU with 1G RAM). For WSAD 5.1.2, I can open 2 WSAD without any problems, and I can have other applications running.

Thus, I think IBM has improved WAS and WSAD a lot in recent year.

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A banking application that needs to gather various info for the users, including stocks, FX, MSCI, etc.



Are you also using WebSphereMQ or MQ Workflow?

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On which type of project are you using portal solution?



A biochemical company's portal, which got contract management feature, products franchising feature and so and so... The company is one of the subcompanies of Johnson & Johnson...

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Yup, the application need to exchange messages from HOST via MQ, and we are currently using MQ 5.3.6.

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It looks I have the slowest computer here , I have 2.6GHz but only 768MB RAM.

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A biochemical company's portal, which got contract management feature, products franchising feature and so and so... The company is one of the subcompanies of Johnson & Johnson...


You are working in Portal projects in your new job?

How is it? What kinds of Portal AS you are based on?

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It looks I have the slowest computer here , I have 2.6GHz but only 768MB RAM.


Your PC has enough *power* to work around with WSAD 5.1.2.

However, if you use WSAD 5.0, I am a bit wonder you will find it very slow.

Thus, you might try to upgrade your WSAD to at least version 5.1.0.

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Originally posted by David Ulicny:
It looks I have the slowest computer here , I have 2.6GHz but only 768MB RAM.



I have just 128 Mb.

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I have just 128 Mb.


wait, 128M can be able to run OAS 9i?!

You wont have any other applications running then?

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128 MB is only for Windows, if you are using them.

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