• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
programming forums Java Mobile Certification Databases Caching Books Engineering Micro Controllers OS Languages Paradigms IDEs Build Tools Frameworks Application Servers Open Source This Site Careers Other Pie Elite all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
  • Campbell Ritchie
  • Ron McLeod
  • Rob Spoor
  • Tim Cooke
  • Junilu Lacar
  • Henry Wong
  • Liutauras Vilda
  • Jeanne Boyarsky
Saloon Keepers:
  • Jesse Silverman
  • Tim Holloway
  • Stephan van Hulst
  • Tim Moores
  • Carey Brown
  • Al Hobbs
  • Mikalai Zaikin
  • Piet Souris

To Jonathan Lehr

Ranch Hand
Posts: 390
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
The creator of Struts took up a new assignment leading the development team of JSF. What in your view is the position of Struts in the next couple of years.
Posts: 20
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi Anselm,

Thanks for your question. I may have covered some of this ground in my response to another of your posts (<a href="https://coderanch.com/t/50854/Struts/Struts-Vs-Other-Frameworks"/> , so I'll try to avoid repeating too much.

Struts has a tremendous lead in mindshare and network effects over the other frameworks, so technology decisions on many projects will likely continue to be influenced by these factors. (In other words, the likelihood that management may require a team to use Struts on their next project is still high.) However, I think JSF spec compliant frameworks will make strong inroads by virtue of being rolled into J2EE, and because of the strong tooling support from multiple vendors. There are also quite a few books, training course, etc. available on the topic.

If I had to guess, I think its likely that the other frameworks will also erode Struts's market share, though to a much smaller degree. Tapestry has been adopted as a Jakarta project, so that (along with its other advantages) may help it gain a bit more market penetration. (I certainly hope that's the case, as I think Tapestry is a breath of fresh air for the Java community.) I think Spring offers a compelling case as an integrated stack, and WebWork is very clean, so they should continue to do well, though again, I think JSF and Struts will dominate.

Interestingly, Struts is not standing still. Work on Struts 1.3 is pretty far along, and the major features (breaking RequestProcessor callbacks up into individual classes glued together by Commons Chain, adding support for an ActionContext, etc.) should be very welcome. Meantime, Struts 2.0 (Shale) appears to be incorporating significant chunks of the JSF spec, so it promises to be much more than an update, and in fact will probably feel more like an entirely new web app framework. If they do a good job integrating workflow features, Shale is likely to attract a lot of attention.

Blood pressure normal? What do I change to get "magnificent"? Maybe this tiny ad?
Thread Boost feature
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic