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Sachin tondulkar
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Hi Guys...!!
I am newbie in this forum...!! I have some knowledge of java programming, esp OOP. and Now I am considering learning JSP/SERVLETS/STRUTS.
How to start with?? I started out with Kathy's Headfirst book....great book...!!
I am looking for some book with a model application (for example online book store etc)
I am looking for something that teaches me..latest java such as MVC kind..
Please suggest me....!!
Also I am struggling with learning/remembering APIs...
Help needed..
TIA
 
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Ignore Struts and other frameworks until you have good working knowledge of JSP and Servlets.

The Head First book is a good first step. Be sure to focus on the JSTL and EL. Java code and scriptlets in JSP pages is an outdated and poor practice that has been discredited for over 8 years. Be sure to learn modern standards.
 
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Bear Bibeault wrote:Ignore Struts and other frameworks until you have good working knowledge of JSP and Servlets.

The Head First book is a good first step. Be sure to focus on the JSTL and EL. Java code and scriptlets in JSP pages is an outdated and poor practice that has been discredited for over 8 years. Be sure to learn modern standards.

Thanks Bear Bibeault..Would you please suggest some books or online sourcecode so that I can follow modern standards instead of old practice....I tried coreservlets edition I, felt kind of out dated...
 
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To be honest, except for the Head First book, there aren't any I know of that I'd recommend. Most JSP books are dated, and focus way too much on antiquated techniques.

Publishers aren't helping the situation. I personally proposed a book on modern JSP techniques and it was shot down because publishers feel that "everything that needs to be written about JSP has already been written".

Best I can do is to recommend hanging out here, and reading the articles in the JavaRanch Journal that related to JSP. (You can see a list of links to my own articles by clicking on the [About Bear] link below.)
 
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Bear Bibeault wrote:Ignore Struts and other frameworks until you have good working knowledge of JSP and Servlets.

The Head First book is a good first step. Be sure to focus on the JSTL and EL. Java code and scriptlets in JSP pages is an outdated and poor practice that has been discredited for over 8 years. Be sure to learn modern standards.


I'll ++ this advice and add that it also wouldn't hurt to acquire a working knowledge of basic JSP Tag Library usage and implementation as well. Frameworks like Struts have their own custom jsp tag libraries you can use (some of which mimic standard stuff you can do with JSTL but Struts had them first) but it can also be handy to be able to write your own and tag libraries are a building block in a solid foundational understanding of web related java development APIs.
 
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