Anybody jus started preparation for SCJP?

[akila karthik]

i ve jus started preparing for scjp... it would b nice if anybody has jus started too...so tat can prepare together in a daily basis virtually..

[Talha Raihan]

Am going to start preparation in a day or so...

[Venkata Raaman]

Hi I have started my preparation...In fact I am in the second chapter of KB...please check your PM for details thanks....

[akila karthik]

ohh ok neva expected would find a reply this soon. ok i have started too and now in second chapter of the book. i prefer to study the book fully once and then start to work out in an editor. wat say ? or how which way you find s easier and effective ?

[Venkata Raaman]

akila karthik wrote:]ohh ok neva expected would find a reply this soon. ok i have started too and now in second chapter of the book. i prefer to study the book fully once and then start to work out in an editor. wat say ? or how which way you find s easier and effective ?

I am working on the code simultaneously, Not waiting till the read at the end of book, I have also been reading some other books/tuts.check your PM.

[Manish Sahni]

Hi ,

I also started my preparation few days ago.
I am in the second chapter of SCJP book and practicing code side by side .

Perhaps we can all share our comments and discussions on each chapter .

[akila karthik]

ok tats nice.. hi all.. actually am unable to run java progs in my laptop.. i tried with jdk and notepadd++... jdk confused me with changin env variables etc etc and even then dint work. but in notepad++ after installin, i could tyoe and save mmy progs but coudln compile and run them. am so annoyed now. dunno if the problem is with laptop or softwares.

[akila karthik]

and wat are all the primitive data types tat can be implicitly cast without type casting. ?

[Venkata Raaman]

akila karthik wrote: ok tats nice.. hi all.. actually am unable to run java progs in my laptop.. i tried with jdk and notepadd++... jdk confused me with changin env variables etc etc and even then dint work. but in notepad++ after installin, i could tyoe and save mmy progs but coudln compile and run them. am so annoyed now. dunno if the problem is with laptop or softwares.

is the run time environment path set up?? check that

[akila karthik]

can you tell the exact procedure to set the class path startin frm installin jdk ??

[Christopher Collier]

Hey everyone,
I just started preparing too and I'm actually on the second chapter of the K&B book as well.

As far as installing the JDK, which OS are you running? I had problems with it too. If you can provide some more information, I can probably tell you some of what you SHOULDN'T do if you want it to work

[akila karthik]

i have vista.. i have worked with jdk in college... but now dunno wat hap but i am unable to handle java programs at all !!

[Christopher Collier]

Hi Akila,
Sorry for the late response. I've been out of town w/o my laptop.

I had a similar problem and got it resolved in this thread:
my classpath post

Javin Paul helped me a lot and he links to his blog in there. I'd recommend giving it a read and seeing if it helps.

Still, I'd like to offer my help. Do you have an IDE installed or are you running Java from the command line?

Chris

[Jaydeep Wagh]

guys I also wanna study with you all...
I have started abt a month nhalf ago n I m now at 7th chapter...of Kathy n bert

it contains collections and generics and I feel it boring...I am writing small small programs as I go on reading.

@karthik: dude you may find some of this information
useful abt classpath and path read here
www.the4thdimension.net/2010/10/path-and-classpath-explained.html

[fadi aboona]

Hi all,

I have started few months ago but going really slow due to distraction, work, family, etc...
How do you study? go to library? how many hours per day? how many pages per day? how to manage not to forget stuff you already studied? are you currently working in IT?

[Francois Descamps]

Hello !

It's my first post here but I follow the ranch discussions since four weeks ;), when I've started to study with the K&B book.
My first step is :
-> read and understand the book
-> test the exercices
-> test the mock exam

For the moment, i read the chapter with the labeled continue&break !

After that I think i'll read again the chapters i'm not easy with.

And after mock exam & mock exam & mock exam & ... and when i will not understand a point i think i will go back in the book or here with a post !

Good luck everybody !

Maçois.

[Christopher Collier]

Hi Francois and welcome!

I'm studying K&B and am on chapter 3 right now. I'm reading everything very slowly and making question and answer index cards of the stuff that I think might be tricky so I can be quizzed on it later.

After reading the chapter, I do the self-test (I got pretty bad scores on the first two chapters...).

I would say to everyone to make sure to write lots and lots of code. There have been times when I've caught myself just reading and reading without writing any code. For me, it really helps to keep the IDE fired up with a test class open and just plug in the stuff from the book, throwing minor variations here and there. It slows you down, but I feel that it helps me absorb the information sooo much more easily.

If anyone is open to virtual study or Q&A sessions, I'm definitely game. If anyone is interested, can you post your time zone so we can coordinate? I'm east-coast USA.

Chris

[Venkata Raaman]

Christopher Collier wrote:Hi Francois and welcome!

I'm studying K&B and am on chapter 3 right now. I'm reading everything very slowly and making question and answer index cards of the stuff that I think might be tricky so I can be quizzed on it later.

After reading the chapter, I do the self-test (I got pretty bad scores on the first two chapters...).

I would say to everyone to make sure to write lots and lots of code. There have been times when I've caught myself just reading and reading without writing any code. For me, it really helps to keep the IDE fired up with a test class open and just plug in the stuff from the book, throwing minor variations here and there. It slows you down, but I feel that it helps me absorb the information sooo much more easily.

If anyone is open to virtual study or Q&A sessions, I'm definitely game. If anyone is interested, can you post your time zone so we can coordinate? I'm east-coast USA.

Chris

Yes I agree with you...! I did fairly well after the test in chapter1. But chapter2 I did bad....and you are right..Do lots of code....and I am also like you...very slow pace. Mainly I am trying to learn rather than thinking of giving exam.

[Juanita Dailey]

Hello Everyone,

I'm hoping to join in with the group here. I am also getting ready to prepare for this as well. Just getting started though so will need to play catchup with a few of you.

J.

[Francois Descamps]

Hi & Thanks for answering me ;)

I'm allright with you !

During my reading, i code as soon as something looks tricky for me...
Like the labeled continue&break.. or polymorphism... or ...
Some points are very "strange" because it's easy to learn the lesson but in exercice the same point is hard to understand how it works...
Overloads, Overrides...,
Boxing, Widden, Var... arg.. etc...

To my mind it's very important to read but learn the rules in the two minute drills part BEFORE doing the self test.
My result in the first and second self tests were but after it becomes easier... May be we begin to think in a better way...

Yesterday, I was in the exceptions part : try{}catch{}finally{}, throws, throw, Error, Exception, RuntimeException, etc... a lot of things to know too

But I think i will have a lot of work on the Generics & Collection Part...

After my first reading, i will take some times to be very easy with all the two minutes drills by learning them or by "coding them"...
And I will read & practise again my "baddest/lowest understanding concepts"

How many hours in a week you work the scjp ? For my mind, something about 4/5 hours a week... with the work/family is hard to work more... it's not enough.. i know...

[Juanita Dailey]

Hello Everyone,

Just reading through the access modifiers and almost done with Chapter one. Just curious as to why you would want to use the protected access modifier from a practical standpoint. Can anyone think of a real world example of why we would use this?

[Chaitanya Kidambi]

Hello everyone,


I have been preparing for SCJP 1.6 for last 2 months(i know its a pretty long time but i have many distractions). i am only doing 15 hours study in a week . i am following K&B. i am left with 3 more chapters(Threads, inner classes and development). i am planning to revise the whole book again and go for mock tests. good luck to everyone guys.
cheers

[Alexander Sales]

Same with me Chaitanya, how about if we review together?

[Chaitanya Kidambi]

hello Alexander.

Sure mate...! what are you revising at the moment ? i just started inner classes.

[Christopher Collier]

Juanita Dailey wrote:Hello Everyone,

Just reading through the access modifiers and almost done with Chapter one. Just curious as to why you would want to use the protected access modifier from a practical standpoint. Can anyone think of a real world example of why we would use this?

Juanita,
I'm sorry to say that I'm really far from having real world experience in Java.

Do you have a job with in programming and find that you don't use package access? I'm interested in this topic as well. Thanks.

Chris

[Alexander Sales]

i see.. we could do it by email or create our own topic area. i think have studied in advance, im at hashcodes and equals. Collections side.

[Juanita Dailey]

Christopher Collier wrote:

Juanita Dailey wrote:Hello Everyone,

Just reading through the access modifiers and almost done with Chapter one. Just curious as to why you would want to use the protected access modifier from a practical standpoint. Can anyone think of a real world example of why we would use this?

Juanita,
I'm sorry to say that I'm really far from having real world experience in Java.

Do you have a job with in programming and find that you don't use package access? I'm interested in this topic as well. Thanks.

Chris

Chris,

I not currently working but have done a little work with Java. For the most part we used public and private access modifiers. I did some further research on this as to why we would want to use the protected access modifier. Here's a pretty good explanation, I think.

Think of your immediate family as a package. Within that package you have members and methods. There are some members/methods that I may want to protect from the outside world. For instance, I don't want my extended family(say this is another package) knowing about all of the details that go on with my children. They may be privy to some information, but things I don't want them to know I can prevent them from seeing by using the protected access modifier. For instance, I don't necessarily want my sister who is not a part of my immediate family knowing about say my kids medical condition. I can prevent this by using a protected modifier. The protected modifier says only my immediate family needs to know this information.

Hope this helps explain it a bit. If anyone else can explain it better, please feel free to jump in. The more people to jump in on this, the better we will all understand it.

~Juanita

[Alexander Sales]

we usually call it encapsulation, narrowing or hiding. to increase maintainability of our program.

[Wong Martin]

Hi everyone! I've started to prepared for SCJP since few weeks ago~ Glad to know that you guys too~

[Asher Khan]

I have also started preparation for SCJP 5.0 recently. I am following the study guide by Paul Sanghera.

It will be nice to collaborate on some concepts with others.

Asher.

[Alexander Sales]

yes please, let's share ideas.

[Asher Khan]

This is the first time I am trying to use a forum and so not sure what would be the best way to do this? Should we create separate topic threads by exam topics. For example, here are the topics for exam:

Section 1: Declarations, Initialization and Scoping
Section 2: Flow Control
Section 3: API Contents
Section 4: Concurrency
Section 5: OO Concepts
Section 6: Collections / Generics
Section 7: Fundamentals

This way whoever is reading or studying on that particular topic can ask questions or answers related to it?

[Alexander Sales]

how about a topic thread called SRG(SCJP review group)

[Asher Khan]

Good idea Alexander....you want to start the thread then?

[Alexander Sales]

will you be the thread starter. I'm much of a follower.

[Asher Khan]

Ok I have started a new thread called SCJP Group Review.

[Alexander Sales]

cool. ill be there

[Henry Wong]

I would like to remind everyone that this is a FORUM.

Topics in this forum needs to be useful to everyone. It should be based a specific subject; and discussions around that subject.

We've allowed this topic even though it doesn't really meet the requirements. Please do not spin off topics that also doesn't meet the requirements. They will be deleted !!

Henry

[Asher Khan]

Henry, is that why I am not seeing the other topic I started? SCJP Group Review?

I am a newbie to the forum and wasn't sure of the policies or rules.

Thanks,
Asher.