Deadline extended to September 30, 2011
Beginning October 1, 2011, Java Architect, Java Developer, Solaris System Administrator and Solaris Security Administrator certification path requirements will include a new mandatory course attendance requirement.
Candidates may earn their certifications using the current track requirements found on the Oracle Certification website through September 30, 2011.
Attention Java Enterprise Architect and Java Developer candidates: It is important that you submit your assignments allowing enough time to take the Essay Exam and to resubmit the assignment if you happen to fail the first attempt. Your assignment will take four weeks to grade and must be submitted prior to registering for the essay. You should submit your assignment, allowing four weeks for grading plus any additional time you will need to take the essay and resubmit the assignment in the event you do not pass initially. Keep in mind that completion of your essay will depend on test center availability. In order to ensure that you have at least one week to resubmit if you fail, you should submit your assignment and complete your essay by August 27, 2011. Any assignments and essays submitted after August 27 cannot be guaranteed to receive a grade in time to resubmit before the September 30 deadline. If you receive a failing grade on your assignment after September 30, 2011, you will be required to resubmit the assignment and meet the training requirement. You should also note that it is your responsibility to ensure you have enough time to complete the essay after submitting the assignment, allowing for limited test appointments. Oracle will not be able to extend the deadline for candidates who submitted their assignments too close to the deadline and were unable to get an essay appointment in time. If you submit the assignment or essay after September 30 2011, you would be required to complete the Hands-on course requirement.
Beginning August 1, 2011, Java Architect, Java Developer, Solaris System Administrator and Solaris Security Administrator certification path requirements will include a new mandatory course attendance requirement.
Candidates may earn their certifications using the current track requirements found on the Oracle Certification website through July 31, 2011.
Candidate submits Assignment and Essay (and has completed any other required exams) by August 27, 2011 and receives a passing grade after September 30, 2011
This candidate will receive the certification without completing the training requirement
Candidate submits Assignment and Essay (and has completed any other required exams) by August 27, 2011 and receives a failing grade after September 30, 2011
This candidate will be given the opportunity to resubmit the assignment and essay within a prescribed time period. Should the candidate pass on the second attempt, he will receive the certification without completing the training requirement. Should he fail on the 2nd attempt, training will be required for certification based on subsequent attempts.
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Why is Oracle adding a hands-on course requirement?
Many Oracle certifications require hands-on course attendance as a part of the certification path. The course requirement is being added to these certification paths to bring them in line with Oracle Certification Program’s standards for the levels of certification under which they fall.
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I have already started preparing for my exam; if I don't take it by August 1, 2011, will I be required to complete training?Yes. Anyone who does not completely finish the current track requirements before August 1, 2011 will be required to meet the new requirements, which will include a mandatory course attendance requirement.
I have already started preparing for my exam; if I don't take it by August 1, 2011, will I be required to complete training?Yes. Anyone who does not completely finish the current track requirements before August 1, 2011 will be required to meet the new requirements, which will include a mandatory course attendance requirement.
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Sean Keane wrote:
I have already started preparing for my exam; if I don't take it by August 1, 2011, will I be required to complete training?Yes. Anyone who does not completely finish the current track requirements before August 1, 2011 will be required to meet the new requirements, which will include a mandatory course attendance requirement.
I would read this differently. I would have thought that once you submit your assignment and get the exam done before the 1st August, then you will not have to do a course. Does this sound correct?
Adam Philpotts wrote:OK, you're probably right Sean, since a resubmission is not part of the OCMJD track requirements.
Wouldn't surprise me though, if someone resubmitted after August 1 and then suddenly training was required.
Obviously better (and cheaper) to pass first time in any case.
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What do I do if I fail the assignment?
If you have failed and wish to resubmit for another attempt, you will need to purchase the resubmission version of your assignment. You will only need to resubmit your assignment. We do not require you to retake your essay exam.
The exam results provided by the assessor are final and non-negotiable.
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Roel De Nijs wrote:If you want to know for sure, you'll have to send an e-mail to Oracle and ask your question about resubmitting and attending a course.
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Approved Training Providers:
Candidates must attend their approved course through one of these providers:
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Schedule/Purchase Training Formats Price Duration Course Materials Instruction Language
View Schedule Instructor-Led Training US$ 3,000 5 Days English English
Purchase Online Self Study Online US$ 840 not applicable English
Purchase Online Self Study CD-ROM US$ 600 not applicable English
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Rajeev Rnair wrote:
The self study cd-rom costs only $600 which is way cheaper than a $3000 - 5 day course!
*Approved Training:
Only instructor-led in-Class or instructor-led online courses (includes Live Web Classes – LWC and Live Virtual classes – LVC) from the above approved list of Oracle University courses count toward the training requirement. Self Study CD-Rom and Knowledge Center (including Recorded Web Courses – RWC) courses are excellent study and reference tools but DO NOT meet the Hands-on Course Requirement for certification.
Roel De Nijs wrote:Like Mikalai already mentioned, is (unfortunately) true. Here is the quote (same source as the one in OP):
*Approved Training:
Only instructor-led in-Class or instructor-led online courses (includes Live Web Classes – LWC and Live Virtual classes – LVC) from the above approved list of Oracle University courses count toward the training requirement. Self Study CD-Rom and Knowledge Center (including Recorded Web Courses – RWC) courses are excellent study and reference tools but DO NOT meet the Hands-on Course Requirement for certification.
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ananthakrishnan ramachandran wrote:Hi,
As per this new mandatory requirement,what happens in the case if OCMJEA part 1 is cleared before august 1 and the assigment(part 2 &3) is submitted after august 1.Will the mandatory course requirement still be applicable?
regards
R.Ananthakrishnan
ananthakrishnan ramachandran wrote:Hi,
As per this new mandatory requirement,what happens in the case if OCMJEA part 1 is cleared before august 1 and the assigment(part 2 &3) is submitted after august 1.Will the mandatory course requirement still be applicable?
regards
R.Ananthakrishnan
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Rene Avontuur wrote:By passing an exam, I can show that I know the subject right.
Would it still remain an option to pass the exams (part I, II en III), without doing any course? (even after august)
This would allow me to tell anyone that I passed the required exams. Without having a certificate, but with some documents that state that I passed the exams.
I don't like this. Just got the approvement to do this certification track. Now I have to tell that things changed, which effects reliabilty.
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Upon completion of your Certification track requirements, Candidates are required to complete a Course Submission Form for providing the details of the required course(s).
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What Is The Value To The Candidates?
A big value of the hands-on course requirement to the credential-holders is that Oracle has eliminated a large group of people that I unkindly refer to as “bottom-feeders” – those individuals and groups (identified by Oracle back in 2002) whose sole goal was to exploit the brand-recognition of the Oracle credentials without really doing the work to become certified. This includes cheaters, those taking advantage of proxy-testing, and those taking real short-cuts to become certified in many different company programs - practices that became evident during the tech-bubble. These people’s actions tend to damage the credentials that many people have legitimately earned. “Bottom feeders” - for the most part - are not willing to spend the time, effort and money to attend an Oracle course.
Isn’t This Just All About Money?
No, it’s not. And skeptics…read on:
First - the financial impact that Oracle initially took was tremendous. And because most of the aforementioned ‘bottom-feeders’ will never come back (the assumption being that they’ve given up on Oracle), we will continue to forfeit the fees associated with them.
Secondly - had the requirement been only about money, it would have been far more expansive than the actual policy in place right now. As it stands - the hands-on course requirement does not apply to many areas, such as the Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) level certifications, all developer certification tracks, and the complete set of Middleware certification tracks. Additionally - those who are upgrading their Oracle certification(s) are not required to attend further mandatory training - from any level, to any level. Essentially, once you are certified you have indeed demonstrated your commitment, have engaged in quality interactive learning that is key to success, and are hence ‘onboard’ and no longer required to attend additional mandatory training courses.
Summary
Oracle raised the bar for certification with the hands-on course requirement. This has had a clear and definite positive impact on the overall value of the Oracle certification - both for those who hold them, as well as those in the marketplace for Oracle credentialed individuals.
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Hi,
Thank you for writing to Oracle Certification Program. Here are the answers to your queries:
1. If you complete your assignment and essay before 01 Aug 2011 then for the resubmission you will not be required to complete the Hands-on course requirement.
2. After 01 Aug 2011, you will have to complete one of the approved courses as a part of Certification requirement.
3. Yes, if you complete one common course for both the Oracle Certified Masters track, it would be acceptable. Please note the course should be a part of approved course list for both the tracks.
Regards,
OCP Team
> Hi,
>
> I have some questions about the new requirements for Oracle Certified Master Java Developer that are to be introduced on the 1st of August i.e. the requirement to attend an Oracle course.
>
> 1) If I submit both my assignment and do the exam before 1st August, and then I fail and resubmit after the 1st of August will I be required to do a course? Or do I simply have to pay the resubmission fee?
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> 2) The new requirements do not state how many courses one needs to attend for the Oracle Certified Master Java Developer. How many courses does one have to attend for this certification?
>
> 3) The Oracle Certified Master Java Developer and the Oracle Certified Master Java Architect have some courses in common in the new requirements. If I attend a single course for the Oracle Certified Master Java Developer will this also cover me for the requirements for the Oracle Certified Master Java Architect the course is also one of the approved courses for Oracle Certified Master Java Architect?
>
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Andrew Monkhouse wrote:Being cynical, I wonder if the assessing of user provided solutions just proved too difficult.
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Sean Keane wrote:However, having said that, Oracle got rid of the percentage score, and are now only providing a pass\fail. This immediately devalues the certification, because someone who got 100% is obviously more competent than someone who got a lesser score.
Andrew Monkhouse wrote:It seems to me that they are attacking the Java exams that have assignments. Being cynical, I wonder if the assessing of user provided solutions just proved too difficult. Given that quite a few people consider the assignment based exams to be the better exams, it would be hard to simply remove these certification paths. An alternate way to kill these two exams would be to make the price for the prohibitive. But it is not as simple as just changing the base price - too hard to justify. Adding in ridiculous prerequisites works though.
Roel De Nijs wrote:
Sean Keane wrote:However, having said that, Oracle got rid of the percentage score, and are now only providing a pass\fail. This immediately devalues the certification, because someone who got 100% is obviously more competent than someone who got a lesser score.
I agree with the 1st remark: Oracle should give at least your total score. But I don't agree with the 2nd remark because I could have a 100% score and put in 500 hours, you could have a 90% score with 100 hours spent. That does not make me more competent than you.
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pradeepkumar Arun wrote: Will oracle revisit this by any chance?
Thanks,
Pradeep
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