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Hi ranchers,

Today i came across an article on the Internet. there was passing a sentence as the following:
"When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it." (wow, the first time i heard)

i was just wondering: have you heard about him and read any of his works?

PS: The name of the author Paulo Coelho - a Brazilian writer. (i've heard this name for the first time).
 
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I am not really into these philosophical kind of literature

"When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it."


When I was a kid in school, I desperately wanted to break my arm so I could get a cast and brag about it. Still waiting for the universe to conspire.
 
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Maneesh Godbole wrote:I am not really into these philosophical kind of literature

"When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it."


When I was a kid in school, I desperately wanted to break my arm so I could get a cast and brag about it. Still waiting for the universe to conspire.



Be happy that such wishes never come true. You like pain ?
 
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I've read his most famous work, The Alchemist, in translation. It was a good read, although it wasn't the transformative experience that some folks will tell you it is.
 
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Rizvan Asgarov wrote:"When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it." (wow, the first time i heard)


Wouldn't it be nice if that were true? You just have to wish for something and "the universe" will be kind enough to help you get it.

A clever writer made use of this by writing a self-help book called The Secret which became a big hype a few years ago. The idea of the book is exactly what you describe here: "if you want something bad enough, the universe will help you". It's childish wishful thinking that is all too attractive to many people. The book is a scam and the only one who got what she wanted was the writer, who became rich from the sales of the book.
 
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Jesper de Jong wrote:

Rizvan Asgarov wrote:"When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it." (wow, the first time i heard)


Wouldn't it be nice if that were true? You just have to wish for something and "the universe" will be kind enough to help you get it.

A clever writer made use of this by writing a self-help book called The Secret which became a big hype a few years ago. The idea of the book is exactly what you describe here: "if you want something bad enough, the universe will help you". It's childish wishful thinking that is all too attractive to many people. The book is a scam and the only one who got what she wanted was the writer, who became rich from the sales of the book.


Indeed! Huge +1

I don't know about the universe, but it seems even the Genie in the lamp doesn't grant you your wish nowadays.
A guy rubs the lamp as recommended in the user manual and the genie pops out.
Genie: Hey kid, thanks for letting me out. Its really cramped up inside. Now out with your 3 wishes. I got places to go and things to do.
Guy: I would like a villa in Beverly Hills
Genie: You dork! If I could get you a villa, would I be living in that crummy lamp?
Poof!
fin.
 
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I have also read The Alchemist.... actually it was the only book I have ever read in my years of existence.... Honestly it has a quite interesting story.... Traveling trough places and meeting various people which seemed to resemble a sole individual.... though the ending was a bit in twist.... XD
 
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I have readed something from that writer. In the same group with it I would put: Castaneda, Secret, Harry Potter, Erich From, Herman Hese.

Maybe this things are helping to get out of.. how other people call it.. cage of ego. I personaly don't belive that it is possible something like that the universe could conspire to make wishes true. I would even rather choose to call it a selective perception than that, I am not enough educated to really speak about it, but, to me it is not really "mystical" to be "opened" towards the universe, like... if someone constantly follows his or her own "meta-programs" maybe that person closes him self or her self out of other things. I think that, usually, as I observed it, the Universe is not really doing anything personal, and most things (like wishes) have something to do with other people. I think that most of the time other people are the one who is helping, and I personally, consider it as unpolite to say "Universe did it", becaouse usually it was people with lovely faces and their names. I don't know, people need to "open" them selves to others and to comunicate with each other and alone with self. I don't know. Once I met one Russian man, when I was in Spain, who was a Hinduist, but maybe I made a mistake that in one moment I have openly asked him something like: "But how can You really belive in it?", and he just told me: "People have to belive in something". Once we were swimming in the sea with big waves, it was dangerouse, and the red flag was on the beach, Cruz Roha was mad becaouse of us, and it was my first time with such a waves. He told to me: "You have to keep on moving. If you stop, you die.". To me it is more like this, like jumping from the very high cliff into the sea. I just know that it will hurt me a little bit, I feel hughe panic, and I really don't want to jump down, but I know and I belive that nothing bad will happen, or in other cases I am calculating with risk. When we were separeating, one of the things he told me was: "Is the coffie and cigarettes the only meaning of life that you have?"
I don't know, maybe books like that are good, but to me it was not really. Becaouse they've become a part of my intimacy and imagination. I think that I need to feel that I am special. Maybe everyone needs it. Maybe the best effect I get is when I think with my own head. Maybe the problem with wishes is like : "Be carefull what You wish becaouse Your wish might become true.". Sometimes, like, becaouse of being jeleaouse I wish something that someone else has even though I don't know what it means, and what comes together in a package. I think that wishing is not a step one. I think step zero is to understand own wishes very well.
I think that "... all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it." is not so bad way to connect with other people, to have faith, but there are maybe other ways as well to understand what is connecting people. On the other hand, when I was a bit younger, having too much faith brought me in many difficult situations, and also caoused me big loss of time.
But I think that the more important part of it is "When you want something", becaouse that's the thing people can feel, and people are fantastic. The Universe, anyway, for the fact, is all around us, that's true, and it is especially beautifull and nice in the summer nights, but to feel nice and protected in it, many things are important for that, and possiblly many people are the one who are helping to have that. Anyway, in times when things get nasty, then the rules of the game are different. Seeing countries in war, makes me sometimes to ask my self, what kind of picture is that, in one part of the world some people have some wishes that by it's quality cant even be compared to my wishes, yet I am taking overindulgement as my right. But I don't say that this is wrong. It's not wrong. It's my right.
I think that I am obligated to exercise my freedom.

And if someone likes Paulo Cohelo, I think that's great.
 
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"When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.".... this statement cannot be true.... because if all the universe would be helping every sole individual that has wishes, then this world would be nothing but a-land-of-granted-wish.... If that's the case, then how would you explain those poor people living in everyday in desperation for survival?... How would you explain those countless lives eradicated by cold and powerful people?... How would you explain a child wandering alone in the streets at night?.... Do you seriously believe they wished for those scenarios?.... I hope you don't.... Well I'm not really talking to anyone right now, I just want to express my thought in this matter..... Lets just say the universe really helps people achieve their wishes, then I'd say the universe is weak for not granting the wishes of those poor souls.... I don't think life is about wishing for what you don't have, but its really about wishing for nothing.. One thing that I have learned in life is not to wish for anything, because expecting something but it never happen would cause dismay, but not wishing for anything at all won't cause you any disappointment.... You might say my idealism is quite unreal, but I could tell you directly in the eyes and with full belief, that I'm living this idealism myself, and so far enjoying this thing called life.....
 
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I don't know. Like.. Maybe it's a phenomenon that people can have ideas and wishes... Recently I was playing with few thoughts. I imagined how wonderfull it is that people can notice what is missing in a Universe. For a while it was a hypnothising concept to me that there is something so apsolutistic about the universe. I was thinking about imagination, for example, how the universe would look if an absolute zero temperature would be different, like when I was a litlle kid and I could daydream for days and nights that I can dive in a sea forever withouth a need for air, or that I can fly, or many things. Then I was wondering about how everything in a universe is a simple truth, so how can we invent a lie. I think that is beautifull. For a while I was thinking how it would be a good sport to notice some absolutistic detail about the universe, and then with the knowledge, make a lie. When I was a little kid I loved to make big grandiouse complicated lies. I was so into it that I would be insulted if someone would tell me that I am lieing. And then, I was thinking about things like... how someone close to me, who loves me cares about me, I allways knew how that is rare, the rest of the world is kind of cruel sometimes, but people who care for me make my life to be like a dream beutifull, maybe becaouse those persons give to me what nothing else gives to me. It inspired me to think about the missing things in the universe. I think that it is very beutiful that people can imagine things that don't exist. It became amazing question to me. How, if something is not even existing, is it possible to imagine it?
I think that is beutifull coincidence. It seams to me, with reading, and learning, like life came out of cruel environment, and through endless years it formed it self better and better, but how it is possible that not only life came out of a cruel past, but it came out with wishes, dreams. When I was a bit younger, I cought some idea about the Big Bang, and how from the explosions of the first stars became more complicated elements, which in a long period caoused life, so in my imagination the first cloud of most simple matter I called "Star dust" and I imagined a nice picture how after a time "Star dust" started to wonder what is "Star dust", but lately it came to my mind that it is not really just that the "Star dust" asks what is "Star dust", but it asks unimaginable questions about the universe, why the universe is not different or what is missing in a universe.
I was imagining a short circuit feedback simulation game about the creation, like, it would be a game filled with mathematical and physical formulas, but also it would be possible to ask a human player, does the artifitially created picture of universe, for example on a screen, looks alike the real universe, and then maybe it would be possible to locate the piece of the very complicated formula made of all formulas, where if something would be changed, the picture would look more a like the real universe. I was thinking how it can be that in the universe maybe everything is possible to explain with the formulas, and it seamd to me like there is more formulas than universe needs for being described. If it would be like that, then it would look like there is universe and more mathemtical formulas than exists in the universe, so, where are those extra mathematical formulas that universe doesn't need to be described with? That's strange idea, if it is so. Even if it is not so, then I just said and invented what doesn't exist in the whole universe. And if it is so, then that's that strange case.
When I was little I was very ill. I had time. Ofcourse, I was thinking sometimes how it would be if I would exist forever. I was very ill and at the time there was no cure for my illness, but I wasn't any more ill when I was fifteen. Anyway, when I was little, I was many times dreaming that there would be a cure for my illness. It was a bitter sweet dream. If I would make peace with the fact that there is no cure today, then I was daydreaming that there would be cure tomorow. The wish for having a cure was so strong that the thing was almost real, every now and then I would start to belive that it exists. But, anyway, then I was thinking, if I am imagining that I exist forever, why I wouldn't think about how it would be if I would be allready existing since forever. I really had time for that. One of the interesting concepts I have stumbled upon was, if I can be sad that I will not exist forever, can I also be sad that I haven't been existing forever till now? It's kind of the same.
So, I was thinking about how the universe will go on without me, choicelessly like there is something so choiceless about it. But it will stay the fact forever that I have existed, even if there would be noone or anything to take care for that fact, it would still be and stay as a fact. But then, if I haven't been existing till now, that's also the fact. In past present times, that was the current fact. Yet, all those current facts about my non-existance changed a bit at a moment when I came to an existance, becaouse after that it was two different kind of non existance, like: not existing and never ever existing not even for a micro moment, and not existing and then existing for a while. Just that I came to an existance, all the past facts about my non existance switched from hard non existance to soft non existance, like retroactievly. But now I can imagine thousands of things, while I have time, that will never exist, like for example, my seven brothers and eight sisters, which never existed, and for the fact never ever will exist not even for the micromoment. It's a fact. But after I am imagining my seven brothers and eight sisters, then the fact that they don't exists is, like a fact, similar like the fact that I exist, and after I stop to exist, the fact about my existance will stay a fact together with a fact about non existance of my seven brothers and eight sisters and their most complicated lifes.
This reminds me about one theory, whose author I forgot how he was called, and the name of the theory as well, where he asked a question where the words exist outside of the all humans, and the whole scientific community rejected that theory that words exist outside of humans.
About the universe granting free wishes I was thinking not so far ago when I was imagining that creation simulation game. I was wondering, what is the difference between wish and the reality, like for example, what is the difference between the imagining that I am flying and flying. More concretely, I was wondering is it possible to describe some imaginary frictional force that stands between the imagination and fullfilment of the dreams. Is it possible to make some general index of how hard is generaly to make a wish true, some general index of universe which would show the meausre of difference between wishes and dreams and reality.
I personally belive that there is nothing more preciouse than wishes and dreams.
 
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Ernest Friedman-Hill wrote:I've read his most famous work, The Alchemist, in translation. It was a good read, although it wasn't the transformative experience that some folks will tell you it is.


Absolutely.
I have full respect but I don't like his writing.
 
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Reading your statements always give me new ideas.... Its really amazing how people can imagine things that don't exist, because the fact that it doesn't exist would really make it hard imagining it..... I'm a person who spends my free time "daydreaming".... I dream about lots of things, more often things that are impossible to happen, like wielding a giant sword and slashing buildings .... I 'm not saying that having dreams and wishes is bad, I know that they serve as stimulants for people to strive harder in pursuit of these.... But Its a fact that a person who have wishes is not satisfied with life.... because the only reason for you to wish for something is not being contended of your current state, of what you have.... Dreams are the wildest desires of human, but wanting to achieve a dream is silliness.... A real dream can never be achieved, that is why its called a "dream", it can never cross reality, it can only happen inside our subconsciousness.... We often consider "goals" as "dreams", but those are two different things....
 
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Yes, I was just thinking more in the direction of how sometimes when people are happy and satisfied , or I don't know, my self actually, when I am the most satisfied and happy I dream the most, and I feel the most beutifull. I can't remember now if I was daydreaming slashing buildings with sword, but I have something similar, I like to imagine my self that I can climb on everything and do heavy things like that, something like Spiderman.
 
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Now those things like being spiderman are what we call dreams..... They are not possible to happen in the near-future of our lifetime.... but just dreaming these things make us feel great, and somewhat satisfied just by visualizing ourselves in that scenario.... but for me, I daydream the most when I feel a lack of energy in my soul.... Especially at times when I miss people, I dream about them just to fill the gap between us.... I have decided on a dream a few years ago that I would like to invent a machine that would allow people to enter and get out of their daydreams anytime.... I just thought that that would be very awesome.... Imagining a scenario in your mind and then entering it as if you are really there, and then returning to the real world when you feel satisfied with the experience... Well you can say that I'm also daydreaming while thinking of such inventions.... Now that is what I call a dream.....
 
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I completely understand. It makes me feel so good that You remind me on something from my own dreams and feelings.. This one is great. Really great. I thank You for this one a lot..
 
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Actually I'm the one who feels great, its really amazing to share some similar perspectives with others.... sharing the same dream with others is quite awesome in its own way....
 
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