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Core Spring at SpringSource: worth the money?

 
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I was looking at the curriculum of the Core Spring class at SpringSource.

The topics seemed quite high-level and there wasn't much detail in the description as to what exactly you'll do. It's difficult from the course description to know if you'd really be productive after the course.

One of the things I can't seem to get with Spring is all the wiring you do, how you do it, what file you do it with, when you need to do it, and just something "basic" like setting up an interceptor.

Has anyone taken this course for Spring 3.0?

This course is a lot of $$$ so some positive recommendations would be welcome.

I've been working with Spring for a few weeks and still feel lost.

Thanks in advance.

-mike
 
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As a SpringSource instructor teaching that exact course. I think it is one of the best courses out there. I really enjoy teaching it from the standpoint that it covers the material extremely well, going into lots of details. I have had lots of students using Spring for a year tell me that they learned a lot in my classes. The labs have you actually doing work. Meaning they don't have you copy and paste solutions, like some classes that I had taken from Oracle.

The 4 day class has lots and lots of material, talks about all the xml options for configuration as well as Annotations and Java Config configurations in Spring. It explains the lifecycle of the Application context. It also talks about the different Spring namespaces. It covers a lot of Data Access technology integration with Spring as well as indepth Transactions, testing and Aspect Oriented programming (my favorite section).

It will then cover many different client technologies like Spring MVC, Spring RESTful Web Services, JMS, JMX, RMI, HttpInvoker, Hessian/Burlap, and also Spring security.

While no class can make you an instant expert, it still takes some experience. The information you get out of Core Spring alone really goes far. You will know what is available in Spring as well as many best practices for configuration.

I personally learned Spring through this course 4 years ago.

Mark
 
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I took the course last year. It was a good course with a mix of conceptual understanding and hands on practice. Courses almost always depend on the instructor though and I had a good one. That said, I know a few people who have taken the course with different instructors (including Mark) and nobody had anything bad to say about the instructors. I suspect this means Spring Source has a good bar for instructors.
 
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Mark Spritzler wrote:As a SpringSource instructor teaching that exact course. I think it is one of the best courses out there. I really enjoy teaching it from the standpoint that it covers the material extremely well, going into lots of details. I have had lots of students using Spring for a year tell me that they learned a lot in my classes. The labs have you actually doing work. Meaning they don't have you copy and paste solutions, like some classes that I had taken from Oracle.

The 4 day class has lots and lots of material, talks about all the xml options for configuration as well as Annotations and Java Config configurations in Spring. It explains the lifecycle of the Application context. It also talks about the different Spring namespaces. It covers a lot of Data Access technology integration with Spring as well as indepth Transactions, testing and Aspect Oriented programming (my favorite section).

It will then cover many different client technologies like Spring MVC, Spring RESTful Web Services, JMS, JMX, RMI, HttpInvoker, Hessian/Burlap, and also Spring security.

While no class can make you an instant expert, it still takes some experience. The information you get out of Core Spring alone really goes far. You will know what is available in Spring as well as many best practices for configuration.

I personally learned Spring through this course 4 years ago.

Mark



OK, I'm sold.

Mark -- which area are you in? Though I'm sure all the instructors are good, it'd be great if you were the instructor.

Thanks for your reply.

-mike
 
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Mike London wrote:

Mark Spritzler wrote:As a SpringSource instructor teaching that exact course. I think it is one of the best courses out there. I really enjoy teaching it from the standpoint that it covers the material extremely well, going into lots of details. I have had lots of students using Spring for a year tell me that they learned a lot in my classes. The labs have you actually doing work. Meaning they don't have you copy and paste solutions, like some classes that I had taken from Oracle.

The 4 day class has lots and lots of material, talks about all the xml options for configuration as well as Annotations and Java Config configurations in Spring. It explains the lifecycle of the Application context. It also talks about the different Spring namespaces. It covers a lot of Data Access technology integration with Spring as well as indepth Transactions, testing and Aspect Oriented programming (my favorite section).

It will then cover many different client technologies like Spring MVC, Spring RESTful Web Services, JMS, JMX, RMI, HttpInvoker, Hessian/Burlap, and also Spring security.

While no class can make you an instant expert, it still takes some experience. The information you get out of Core Spring alone really goes far. You will know what is available in Spring as well as many best practices for configuration.

I personally learned Spring through this course 4 years ago.

Mark



OK, I'm sold.

Mark -- which area are you in? Though I'm sure all the instructors are good, it'd be great if you were the instructor.

Thanks for your reply.

-mike



Yes. I am all over the US. However, if you sign up to a public class, the chances are slim that I will be teaching that class. I have my own company and SpringSource hires me through well me. I used to be a full time SpringSource employee, but now I am on my own. But 99.9999% of my work is through SpringSource. For their public classes they have contracts with other training companies to teach the public classes, so I am always sent to private onsite classes at specific companies. Every blue moon, I get to do a public class, but the last public one I did was back in November.

But I also agree that SpringSource really cares about the instructors that are teaching their classes, and you will not get a bad instructor. (Unless I just jinxed this)

What area's/dates were you thinking? I can ask my contact there who is teaching that class and more info.

Thanks

Mark
 
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Mike London wrote:

Mark Spritzler wrote:As a SpringSource instructor teaching that exact course. I think it is one of the best courses out there. I really enjoy teaching it from the standpoint that it covers the material extremely well, going into lots of details. I have had lots of students using Spring for a year tell me that they learned a lot in my classes. The labs have you actually doing work. Meaning they don't have you copy and paste solutions, like some classes that I had taken from Oracle.

The 4 day class has lots and lots of material, talks about all the xml options for configuration as well as Annotations and Java Config configurations in Spring. It explains the lifecycle of the Application context. It also talks about the different Spring namespaces. It covers a lot of Data Access technology integration with Spring as well as indepth Transactions, testing and Aspect Oriented programming (my favorite section).

It will then cover many different client technologies like Spring MVC, Spring RESTful Web Services, JMS, JMX, RMI, HttpInvoker, Hessian/Burlap, and also Spring security.

While no class can make you an instant expert, it still takes some experience. The information you get out of Core Spring alone really goes far. You will know what is available in Spring as well as many best practices for configuration.

I personally learned Spring through this course 4 years ago.

Mark



OK, I'm sold.

Mark -- which area are you in? Though I'm sure all the instructors are good, it'd be great if you were the instructor.

Thanks for your reply.

-mike



Yes. I am all over the US. However, if you sign up to a public class, the chances are slim that I will be teaching that class. I have my own company and SpringSource hires me through well me. I used to be a full time SpringSource employee, but now I am on my own. But 99.9999% of my work is through SpringSource. For their public classes they have contracts with other training companies to teach the public classes, so I am always sent to private onsite classes at specific companies. Every blue moon, I get to do a public class, but the last public one I did was back in November.

But I also agree that SpringSource really cares about the instructors that are teaching their classes, and you will not get a bad instructor. (Unless I just jinxed this)

What area's/dates were you thinking? I can ask my contact there who is teaching that class and more info.

Thanks

Mark



Do you have a private email for those details?
 
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Yeah, click on my name and see the email in my profile. I receive email sent there. Or you can send me a PM, I think.

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Mark Spritzler wrote:Yeah, click on my name and see the email in my profile. I receive email sent there. Or you can send me a PM, I think.

Mark



Mark,

I didn't see an email in your profile. I had looked there before. There's just a twitter account and your own website.

Should I sent you an email from your website's contact form?

- mike
 
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I guess when I look at my profile I see the address. But basically it is my full name @ javaranch.com

so full name being markspritzler

Thanks

Mark Spritzler
 
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Mark Spritzler wrote:I guess when I look at my profile I see the address. But basically it is my full name @ javaranch.com

so full name being markspritzler

Thanks

Mark Spritzler



Email sent, thanks Mark.
 
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