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OCPJP 7?

 
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when will OCPJP 7 release?
Should i wait for OCPJP & or give OCPJP 6 now???
please advise.....
 
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there is no major diffrence of java6 and 7 , you preapre your self acording to 6 ....
 
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like you i am also in the same dilemma.can any one resolve it.
 
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In details there are many differences between J6 and J7. I have just seen that:
OCPJP7
Does anyone know when this certification will be released?
 
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Jimmy kalra wrote:there is no major diffrence of java6 and 7 , you preapre your self acording to 6 ....



From reading the exam topics on this page here it seems there is quite a lot covered that wasn't covered in the Java 6 Programmer certification.

I'm open to correction, but I don't recall these being on the Java 6 Programmer certification:
  • Design Patterns
  • Describe the JDBC API
  • Localization
  • Concurrency - not to the extent mentioned in the link referenced above
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    Sean Keane wrote:

    Jimmy kalra wrote:there is no major diffrence of java6 and 7 , you preapre your self acording to 6 ....



    From reading the exam topics on this page here it seems there is quite a lot covered that wasn't covered in the Java 6 Programmer certification.

    I'm open to correction, but I don't recall these being on the Java 6 Programmer certification:
  • Design Patterns
  • Describe the JDBC API
  • Localization
  • Concurrency - not to the extent mentioned in the link referenced above


  • Design patterns & JDBC, definitely not in the Java 6 exam. Localization is on the Java 6 exam I believe (it's included as a topic and I don't think I've seen any word on it being removed).

    Concurrency looks like a beefed up topic over what was in Java 6. A little surprising as Concurrency was bumped off the Java 6 scope, so now it's back.

    Then again, Concurrency is still a listed Java 6 topic on this page -> page here so I'm not sure what to believe on that site.
     
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    Yes, so as I was showing, the Java 7 exam is radically different from the Java 6. So it would be unwise to simply follow a Java 6 studying guide.
     
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    in java 7 there is a not major difference , and the topics that include in exam is little change in java 6 and 7 .........
     
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    Jimmy, this is precisely the same as your previous post. It doesn't add anything new - not sure what the purpose of it was?

    My previous post provides references that display that the Java 7 exam is radically different to the Java 6 exam.

    If you have any references or information to show that the Java 7 exam will be the same as the Java 6 exam then please update.
     
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    Oracle yet to launch OCP Java SE 7 Certification Path topics.

    Based on OCP Java SE 7 Upgrade Path the following skills are required.

    Topic1: Language Enhancements (String in switch, _ in numeric literals, try catch enhancements,etc)
    Topic2: Design Patterns (Singleton, DOA, Factory and Database Applications with JDBC)
    Topic3: Describe the JDBC API (JDBC 4.1 improvements)
    Topic3: Concurrency (Executors, ThreadPools etc)
    Topic4: Localization
    Topic5: Java File I/O (NIO.2)

    Read more about OCP Java SE 7 upgrade path at http://www.epractizelabs.com/blog2/?p=397 .

    You can also find sample mock questions at http://www.epractizelabs.com/certification/sun/javase7upgradeocp.html
     
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    Ganesan Ponnusamy wrote:Oracle yet to launch OCP Java SE 7 Certification Path topics.

    Based on OCP Java SE 7 Upgrade Path the following skills are required.

    Topic1: Language Enhancements (String in switch, _ in numeric literals, try catch enhancements,etc)
    Topic2: Design Patterns (Singleton, DOA, Factory and Database Applications with JDBC)
    Topic3: Describe the JDBC API (JDBC 4.1 improvements)
    Topic3: Concurrency (Executors, ThreadPools etc)
    Topic4: Localization
    Topic5: Java File I/O (NIO.2)

    Read more about OCP Java SE 7 upgrade path at http://www.epractizelabs.com/blog2/?p=397 .

    You can also find sample mock questions at http://www.epractizelabs.com/certification/sun/javase7upgradeocp.html



    I see some good addition in terms of Design pattern and Concurrency
     
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    In general, it is advisable to go for the most recent certification. But OCPJP 7 is not even in beta yet. It could take anywhere from 3 to 6 months for it to go live. If you have time now, take OCPJP 6 now otherwise take OCPJP7 later.

    Also, for OCPJP 7, it seems Oracle has split it into two (details are still hazy). So if money is a consideration, you can take OCPJP 6 now.

    HTH,
    Paul.
     
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    Hi Yadu, besides all comments about differences between SCJP 6 and 7, you should consider trying SCJP 6 also for a professional reason. Upgrading JDK on stable projects can be very tough so it's unlikely that the company where you work or would like to work are already using Java 7. It will take much more time to companies adopt Java 7 than Oracle to launch SCJP 7.

    --eduardo
     
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    Here's a link from Oracle about the OCPJP 7 exam:
    http://blogs.oracle.com/certification/entry/0620a1

    In the link, it says that the new exam was written from the ground up and contains more breadth and several new topics.

    I'm going to take the OCPJP 6 exam and possibly later upgrade my certification by taking the Java 7 exam.

    -- Kaydell
     
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    I've been trying to keep up with some of the interesting changes in the OCPJP and OCAJP certifications. One of the really interesting changes is the fact that to get Java 7 certified as a 'professional', you need to pass that OCAJP certification first. It's a two step process, which also means dishing out money twice for sitting the exam.



    Should i wait for OCPJP & or give OCPJP 6 now???



    If that is specifically the question, I think I'd recommend doing OCPJP 6, if only because the process is streamlined, you only have one exam to pass in order to obtain your designation, and because writing one exam is cheaper than writing two. So, study your behind off for the version 6 exam. Then, if you really are hungry for the Java7 certification, just take the Java 7 upgrade exam.

    To figure out what's new as far as the exam goes, it's best to go to the objectives for the Java 7 Professional Certification Upgrade Exam. That lists out quite nicely what is new. So, for the most part, you need to study pretty much everything that was on the old exams, so any Java 6 certification resource will do, and then spend some time researching these new topics.

    My buddy Sal and I have been writing up some content, one exam objective at a time over on TSS, hoping to help people focus on what's important with the new exam. I've got a ways to go, but here's some of the content.

    Use String in the switch statement
    Use binary literals, numeric literals with underscores (Part II - The Underscores)
    Use try-with-resources Plus a mock exam question.
    Automatic Resource Management and the AutoCloseable Interface
    Suppressed Exceptions and the Try With Resources Language Enhancement
    OCAJP Mock Exam Question on Unary Operators and Operator Precedence
    When will the Java 7 OCPJP and OCAJP Exams Be Available?
    No Training Requirement for the Java 7 OCPJP and OCAJP Certification Exams

    Okay, I can see that this is getting out of control. A little too much self promotion. I've created a page in "Blatant Advertising" to update some of the OCPJP content that's being created. Much of it is crosslinked to pages at JavaRanch, of course.

    Blatant Advertising Page Discussion Some OCPJP/OCAJP Related Content

    Here are the exam links from Oracle that you'll want to look at in order to know what the key objectives are:

    OCAJP Exam Objectives - Java 7 (Java Associate formerly SCJA)
    OCPJP Exam Objectives - Java 7 (Java Professional formerly SCJP)
    Java 7 Professional Certification Upgrade Exam Objectives

    I'll try to update this link when I add more. Good luck everyone on their certification quest.

    -Cameron McKenzie



     
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    Well..you can check out the exam topics in the form of a nice-looking map here.
     
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    Thanks Nancy for sharing the link. I have printed the objective page and sticked it to my study table
     
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