restricted moderation?

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is there anyway to set up a group's permissions so that it can only have the ability to delete and edit messages in only some forums ??

these seem to be admin only functions as 'moderator' in the software seems to only relate to approving or denying messages as they are posted.

in my group priviledges i have restricted their moderator status to only one forum, but if i give them the permission to delete or edit post then they can do it to every forum

is there anyway to get around this ?? thanks,

'TheOne'
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TheOne wrote:is there anyway to set up a group's permissions so that it can only have the ability to delete and edit messages in only some forums ??

these seem to be admin only functions as 'moderator' in the software seems to only relate to approving or denying messages as they are posted.

in my group priviledges i have restricted their moderator status to only one forum, but if i give them the permission to delete or edit post then they can do it to every forum

is there anyway to get around this ?? thanks,

'TheOne'

Yes, make more groups and permission them for the various forums as moderators. Then add the moderators to those groups.

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it seems to me that if you give a group the ability to delete and edit post it affects all the forums, not just the specific ones you want to be moderated... is this not correct ??

the check boxes to delete and edit post seem to be above the control of which forums cannot be moderated. is this how it is supposed to be or is it some sort of bug??
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TheOne wrote:it seems to me that if you give a group the ability to delete and edit post it affects all the forums, not just the specific ones you want to be moderated... is this not correct ??

the check boxes to delete and edit post seem to be above the control of which forums cannot be moderated. is this how it is supposed to be or is it some sort of bug??

It gives the group the ability to delete and edit posts for the forums they have permissions to. By making a group for each forum you want to allow moderation permissions, you can control who moderates what.

So typically, a moderator of just a single forum would belong to at least two groups: 1) General group to be able to view all the other forums and 2) new moderator group for the specific forum.

Of course, if there are other forums you want someone to moderate, you would increase the group membership for that person(s) to include the groups controlling those forums.
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the moderator restrictions work fine as long as the moderator is a member of the moderator group for the specific forum alone... as soon as I add him to the General group, his delete and edit abilities extend to all the forums

as you said, he can delete and edit in the forums he has access to, and in the General group he has access to all. either something is wrong with my logic or its the logic of the software, lol. anymore suggestions ??
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TheOne wrote:the moderator restrictions work fine as long as the moderator is a member of the moderator group for the specific forum alone... as soon as I add him to the General group, his delete and edit abilities extend to all the forums

as you said, he can delete and edit in the forums he has access to, and in the General group he has access to all. either something is wrong with my logic or its the logic of the software, lol. anymore suggestions ??

And are you turning on the Moderator option in the General group? If so, that's why.

Otherwise make sure the forums in the "Cannot moderate these forums" are selected correctly too ...

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yes, as far as i can tell my permissions are set up as they should be. as was stated, the delete and edit post functions are avaliable to all forums that a person has access too, so if he is in the general group then he has access to all. i cant seem to find a way to limit him to just one forum. i even tried setting the moderator group as a sub-group of the general group, but none the less since he still was a member of the general group he could delete and edit post. it seems the

on a related note, i am not sure of the function of the "cannont moderate these forums" permission as they do nothing to limit the delete and edit functions if a person has access to all the forums. the only way is to restrict access, but that would mean he couldnt post.

it seems to me that the delete and edit post functions are not attached to the "cannot moderate these forums" permission, which since they are a part of moderation they should. if you have any other ideas, please let me know, otherwise i hope this is fixed in the next version
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TheOne wrote:yes, as far as i can tell my permissions are set up as they should be. as was stated, the delete and edit post functions are avaliable to all forums that a person has access too, so if he is in the general group then he has access to all. i cant seem to find a way to limit him to just one forum. i even tried setting the moderator group as a sub-group of the general group, but none the less since he still was a member of the general group he could delete and edit post. it seems the

on a related note, i am not sure of the function of the "cannont moderate these forums" permission as they do nothing to limit the delete and edit functions if a person has access to all the forums. the only way is to restrict access, but that would mean he couldnt post.

it seems to me that the delete and edit post functions are not attached to the "cannot moderate these forums" permission, which since they are a part of moderation they should. if you have any other ideas, please let me know, otherwise i hope this is fixed in the next version

And which version are you using now? The method I described works for 2.1.6 (and older).
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2.1.6 is my current version... im curious to know if you have ever heard of this in another case, i.e. is it the software or me, lol
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I went back and tried a few tests to confirm ...

Here is what I did:

1) Created a new Category called Test
2) Created new Forum called Test Forum in the Test Category
3) Created a new group called Test and gave it moderator permissions for just the Test Category
4) Assigned a test user to only the General & Test Groups

Test user was able to moderate posts in the Test Forums.

AND

the test user could also moderate messages in other Forums as well.

So, It's definitely NOT you!

There does seem to be a permissions bug (or misunderstanding by me too) with cumulative permission application!



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thanks, glad to know it can be replicated... so i guess ill just wait for an update in the next patch. would you recommend me posting this on jira or will you let some of the higher ups know yourself ??
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TheOne wrote:thanks, glad to know it can be replicated... so i guess ill just wait for an update in the next patch. would you recommend me posting this on jira or will you let some of the higher ups know yourself ??

Well, 2.1.6 isn't getting any work done to it ... 2.1.7 has replaced it.
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After thinking on this a bit, why don't you just leave the moderators in the "moderator" group only and NOT put them in the General group? That should solve the cumulative permissions issue.

And in the group permissions settings, you can specify which forums are to be moderated, and what access to the other forums are allowed.

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