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Bert Bates wrote:Hi Guys,
If you're studying for the Java 7 exam(s), and if you're not already certified, you now have to pass your OCA exam before you can attempt the OCP exam.
If you're studying for the OCA, our book (K&B 6), should give you pretty good coverage. If you study the following chapters from K&B 6 you should be in pretty good shape for the OCA:
chaps: 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5
chap 6 - the String and StringBuilder sections
chap 7 - the hashCode() and equals() sections, and only the ArrayList class.
chap 10
The chapters (and sections) listed above ARE NOT a perfect overview of everything you might encounter on the real exam, but I'd say they represent a 95% overlap. We'll be nailing down that last 5% over the next several weeks.
In terms of the OCP - we have some MONSTER additions to make to K&B 7 to cover that exam - we're working on it!
hth,
Bert
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Bert Bates wrote:It's important to distinguish between the older exam, SCJA, and the new exam, OCA. As far as the older exam goes, I believe there are several good books already published for that exam, check out the JavaRanch bunkhouse.
For the NEW OCA exam, I believe that as of April 2012, there are several books in the process of being written, but that none are yet available. (If anyone knows of an OCA book that's available now, please add a post to this thread!)
So, in the meantime, until an OCA-specific book is available, you can use the chapters I mentioned earlier (from the K&B SCJP 6 book), to study for the OCA. As I said, those chapters aren't a perfect fit, but I'd guess that they're a 95% fit.
Please remember that any book written for the old SCJA is probably only about a 30% fit for the new OCA - the new OCA exam is REALLY, REALLY different than the old SCJA.
hth,
Bert
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Perhaps I am missing something then. I attempted and passed OCA Java SE 5/6 back in January. I only studied from the SCJA Sun Certified Java Associate Study Guide and found out that exam was pretty much in line with the guide.Please remember that any book written for the old SCJA is probably only about a 30% fit for the new OCA - the new OCA exam is REALLY, REALLY different than the old SCJA
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Harinder Hanjan wrote:
Perhaps I am missing something then. I attempted and passed OCA Java SE 5/6 back in January. I only studied from the SCJA Sun Certified Java Associate Study Guide and found out that exam was pretty much in line with the guide.Please remember that any book written for the old SCJA is probably only about a 30% fit for the new OCA - the new OCA exam is REALLY, REALLY different than the old SCJA
One intersting thing that happened was that a couple of days before the exam, I visited the Oracle site to take a look at exam topics. I noticed that while a high level overview of J2EE was part of the SCJA guide I used, these topics were not listed on the Oracle site. So I stopped studying them from the guide as well thinking that the material wouldn't be on the exam. To my dismay, about 35% of the exam was on these J2EE concepts. I lost most of my marks on this tail end part of the exam as as result. Perhaps my testing centre was using the old SCJA exam.
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I do not reside in India so I am afraid I wouldn't know cost of the exam there. As the user above mentioned, check Oracle site for such info.jamie bell wrote:Hello Harinder . I too stay in India can you please help me i have posted my problem here.
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Bert Bates wrote:Hi Guys,
If you're studying for the Java 7 exam(s), and if you're not already certified, you now have to pass your OCA exam before you can attempt the OCP exam.
If you're studying for the OCA, our book (K&B 6), should give you pretty good coverage. If you study the following chapters from K&B 6 you should be in pretty good shape for the OCA:
chaps: 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5
chap 6 - the String and StringBuilder sections
chap 7 - the hashCode() and equals() sections, and only the ArrayList class.
chap 10
The chapters (and sections) listed above ARE NOT a perfect overview of everything you might encounter on the real exam, but I'd say they represent a 95% overlap. We'll be nailing down that last 5% over the next several weeks.
In terms of the OCP - we have some MONSTER additions to make to K&B 7 to cover that exam - we're working on it!
hth,
Bert
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rajeswari kannan wrote:Difference between OCA Java SE 5/SE 6 and OCA Java SE 7 Programmer certification
http://www.epractizelabs.com/blog2/?p=522
Note that "UML representation of OO concepts" chapter is completely removed for OCA Java SE 5/6 exam.
Bert Bates wrote:It's important to distinguish between the older exam, SCJA, and the new exam, OCA. As far as the older exam goes, I believe there are several good books already published for that exam, check out the JavaRanch bunkhouse.
For the NEW OCA exam, I believe that as of April 2012, there are several books in the process of being written, but that none are yet available. (If anyone knows of an OCA book that's available now, please add a post to this thread!)
So, in the meantime, until an OCA-specific book is available, you can use the chapters I mentioned earlier (from the K&B SCJP 6 book), to study for the OCA. As I said, those chapters aren't a perfect fit, but I'd guess that they're a 95% fit.
Please remember that any book written for the old SCJA is probably only about a 30% fit for the new OCA - the new OCA exam is REALLY, REALLY different than the old SCJA.
hth,
Bert
rajeswari kannan wrote:Difference between OCA Java SE 5/SE 6 and OCA Java SE 7 Programmer certification
http://www.epractizelabs.com/blog2/?p=522
Note that "UML representation of OO concepts" chapter is completely removed for OCA Java SE 5/6 exam.
Bert Bates wrote:
...
If you're studying for the OCA, our book (K&B 6), should give you pretty good coverage. If you study the following chapters from K&B 6 you should be in pretty good shape for the OCA:
chaps: 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5
chap 6 - the String and StringBuilder sections
chap 7 - the hashCode() and equals() sections, and only the ArrayList class.
chap 10
The chapters (and sections) listed above ARE NOT a perfect overview of everything you might encounter on the real exam, but I'd say they represent a 95% overlap. We'll be nailing down that last 5% over the next several weeks.
...
Bert
Bert Bates wrote:Hi Guys,
If you're studying for the Java 7 exam(s), and if you're not already certified, you now have to pass your OCA exam before you can attempt the OCP exam.
If you're studying for the OCA, our book (K&B 6), should give you pretty good coverage. If you study the following chapters from K&B 6 you should be in pretty good shape for the OCA:
chaps: 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5
chap 6 - the String and StringBuilder sections
chap 7 - the hashCode() and equals() sections, and only the ArrayList class.
chap 10
The chapters (and sections) listed above ARE NOT a perfect overview of everything you might encounter on the real exam, but I'd say they represent a 95% overlap. We'll be nailing down that last 5% over the next several weeks.
In terms of the OCP - we have some MONSTER additions to make to K&B 7 to cover that exam - we're working on it!
hth,
Bert
Kareem Al-Nassag wrote:Hello Bert,
I was checking on this topic, been led to it by my search for help about the OCAJP7 test, and I noticed you're talking about a new book coming out that's specific to the OCAJP7 test instead of the current book for SCJP.
I came across this book (not yet released) on Amazon OCA/OCP Java SE 7 Programmer I & II Study Guide (Exams 1Z0-803 & 804) (Certification Press).
Is this the one you're talking about? and if yes, when will it be available?
I would really appreciate such info, and thanks a lot for the great efforts
Bert Bates wrote:
If you're studying for the OCA, our book (K&B 6), should give you pretty good coverage. If you study the following chapters from K&B 6 you should be in pretty good shape for the OCA:
chaps: 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5
chap 6 - the String and StringBuilder sections
chap 7 - the hashCode() and equals() sections, and only the ArrayList class.
chap 10
The chapters (and sections) listed above ARE NOT a perfect overview of everything you might encounter on the real exam, but I'd say they represent a 95% overlap. We'll be nailing down that last 5% over the next several weeks.
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Bert Bates wrote:i'd say mostly yes - I can't recall whether K&B 5 had the development chapter or not. If it didn't, then you have to add static imports and "how the JVM finds classes" to the stuff to learn.
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