I hate netui!

[Marc Luzietti]

Honestly, using data sources for IDs and NAMEs just sucks 100 ways to heaven (thanks for killing the CSS, BEA).

Why, why, why does netui:label see fit to automatically insert completely useless code bloat, i.e., SPAN elements around the inserted text?

More importantly, how can I get rid of it?

[Bear Bibeault]

Originally posted by Marc Luzietti:
More importantly, how can I get rid of it?

Easy. Stop using web frameworks that only add complexity and inflexibility to your projects.

And that's not being sarcastic. I gave up on behemothic frameworks such as Struts long ago and rely upon simple, light-weight tools.

Now I get what I need to get done about 3x faster.

[william gates]

Frameworks are great to learn and can be useful for many different reasons. But it seems frameworks have become nothing more than "the latest and greatest" and people abuse them, overuse them and misunderstand them.

There are more projects that really shouldn't use a complex framework. Sometimes going from point A to Point B is what you really should use instead of going from Point A to Point Z and back again just to get to Point B. The more complex your sysytem gets, sometimes Frameworks are a godsend if used correctly. But for many many projects worked on, frameworks become more of a burden than anything else. While some frameworks are meant to simplify things, they only complicate things if used incorrectly, which happens all the time, and used for a project that is quite small.

[Marc Luzietti]

The use of a framework, let alone which framework, is not up to the poor HTML / CSS / JavaScript developer, i.e., me.

[Bear Bibeault]

My condolences. Feel free to vent.