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Just Java, SQL and little more - job prospects ?

 
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I am looking for entry level Java positions. But, I know only Java and SQL. I know a little bit of Swing, HTML, Data structures and algorithms - could talk a little about the basics, but not really more than that.
I have coded 3-4 serious personal apps in Java. My SQL skills are basic and nowhere near those of a DB developer. I know that most Java jobs generally require - Spring, Hibernate, XML, SQL.
But, I was wondering if there are any entry level positions that could make do with someone who knows Java and SQL.

Are there any entry level jobs/job profiles that could need mainly Java and SQL only ? Is it enough to know Java and SQL very well (SCJP & SCJD level, DB developer
level respectively) to get an entry level position ? Are there any other skills that could make this combination more attractive for entry level positions ?

Examples of Java + SQL position -
Not just java and SQL really !!!
They need java and sql mainly, but will Java & SQL really be attractive to them ?
 
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Both of those postings list skills beyond java and sql. I find most entry level developers know servlets/jsp/javascript. I think you'd have more job prospects if you learned these.
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Both of those postings list skills beyond java and sql. I find most entry level developers know servlets/jsp/javascript. I think you'd have more job prospects if you learned these.



servlets/jsp - don't see too many jobs that mention those skills. There are a few. Usually its only Spring and Hibernate.
javascript - I can understand that servlets/jsp can be related to Java jobs (at least thats what i learned in my Head First servlets/jsp book) . But, how is javascript related to java jobs ?
 
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David Blaine wrote:servlets/jsp - don't see too many jobs that mention those skills. There are a few. Usually its only Spring and Hibernate.



http://jobsearch.monster.com/search/?q=java-servlet - 743 hits
http://jobsearch.monster.com/search/?q=java-jsp - 1000+ hits
http://jobsearch.monster.com/search/?q=java-web - 1000+ hits

I'm not saying Spring/Hibernate aren't important. I'm saying you should know both. (And if you learn Spring MVC without learning Servlets/JSPs, you are likely to not understand the fundamental concepts. Spring abstracts a lot away.)

David Blaine wrote:javascript - I can understand that servlets/jsp can be related to Java jobs (at least thats what i learned in my Head First servlets/jsp book) . But, how is javascript related to java jobs ?


A company is looking for developers who know Java. A large percentage of development jobs include building websites/web screens. Not knowing JavaScript is a major gap. As you progress through your career, try to think of yourself as a developer rather than a "java job". It will open more possibilities/doors.
 
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Jeanne has nailed it head on. If you think of yourself as a Java developer, your career will be severely constrained.

Also I'll reiterate that without a sound knowledge of the fundamental of servlets and JSP, your hope of understanding most web frameworks is pretty much nil.

And as for JavaScript (along with HTML and CSS) a web developer (where most of the Java jobs are) without these tools is a poor craftsman indeed.

"Just Java" is no longer good enough.
 
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