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Ali Gordon
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I am copy pasting his criticism from here. Does this make any sense ?
I am unable to see anything except that one should know where to use design patterns. I don't really see a problem with the book.

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[edit]CR: Removed long quote: possible breach of copyright. You can read it at the link posted above.[/edit]
 
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Sounds like a lot of sensationalism just to make a point about where text should have been in the book.
 
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Perhaps the book was written at the peak of the software pattern Hype_cycle, whereas the response came at the following trough.
 
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I don't know who Jeff Atwood is, but he lost all credibility with those last few sentences. I would take his criticism and ignore it as coming from a jerk who feels threatened by women in his tech environment and must find any opportunity to make derogatory remarks about them. That doesn't sound like someone you should take advice from.
 
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:Perhaps the book was written at the peak of the software pattern Hype_cycle, whereas the response came at the following trough.

The Atwood post is dated 5 September 2005, i.e. about a year after the book came out.
 
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Steve Luke wrote:I don't know who Jeff Atwood is, ...

The author of the Coding Horror blog and one of the founders of Stack Overflow.
 
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Steve Luke wrote:I don't know who Jeff Atwood is, but he lost all credibility with those last few sentences. I would take his criticism and ignore it as coming from a jerk who feels threatened by women in his tech environment and must find any opportunity to make derogatory remarks about them. That doesn't sound like someone you should take advice from.

I am not a fan of "Me too!" posts, but I have to add one here, and say that Steve makes an important point. Our industry needs to be a welcoming one, and it hasn't been for much of its existence. Frat-boy garbage like that bit at the end of Atwood's self-indulgent criticism would rightly make anyone think he's a jerk, and not the kind of person they'd want to work with (be "anyone" a person of one gender or the other). Also, FWIW, the model in that shot is an actual person who, apparently, posed for one of those stock-shot vendors. She looks pretty fit to me, so I wonder if Atwood would be a little more restrained if he found himself sitting next to her while he posted that crap.

Speaking to the main point (at the risk of legitimizing the person who made it beyond what he is due), my feeling has always been that becoming a good programmer is rather like storming a castle that is surrounded by a moat. There are any number of ways to make it to the castle, but there is no way out of dealing with the crocodiles.
 
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Jesper de Jong wrote:
Steve Luke wrote:I don't know who Jeff Atwood is, ...

The author of the Coding Horror blog and one of the founders of Stack Overflow.


Everyone scroll down to the April 25th entry in his blog for a good laugh.
 
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Tyson Lindner wrote:Everyone scroll down to the April 25th entry in his blog for a good laugh.


That is jaw-droppingly funny and sad at the same time. Reminds me of this bit Tom Parsons says in "1984":

’Thoughtcrime is a dreadful thing, old man,’ he said sententiously. ’It’s insidious. It can get hold of you without your even knowing it.'
 
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Tyson Lindner wrote:Everyone scroll down to the April 25th entry in his blog for a good laugh.


Where is it ?
 
Ali Gordon
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Steve Luke wrote:I don't know who Jeff Atwood is, but he lost all credibility with those last few sentences. I would take his criticism and ignore it as coming from a jerk who feels threatened by women in his tech environment and must find any opportunity to make derogatory remarks about them. That doesn't sound like someone you should take advice from.


As long as you don't do any kind of harassment, who/which company cares ? A smart coder is better than a nice mediocre coder. He only needs to learn how to shut up and keep these thoughts
away from public.
 
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Ali Gordon wrote:
Everyone scroll down to the April 25th entry in his blog for a good laugh.


Where is it ?

Down.
 
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I think this thread is simply going round in circles, so I shall close it.
 
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