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803 or 808? which one should a fresh java learner go for?

 
akshay naidu
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hello everyone,
i started learning java a couple of days before,successfully created MooseGreetings program.
i've set a target of two months to prepare myself for a certification.
considering that i have no programming experience,which certification should i go for,and are 2 months sufficient for preparation.?
also please guide me on how to do the preparations.
thanks.
 
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As background, the 803 (OCAJP 7) and 808 (OCAJP 8) are both the entry level exam. The only difference is that the OCAJP 8 covers a few extra topics introduced in Java 8 like lambda predicates and dates.

There's no universal best answer to "which exam should I take", but here are a few thoughts:

  • If you are using the certification to try to get a job, the OCAJP 8 will sound somewhat more impressive because it is for a later version. (plus you'll be able to talk about current features)
  • If you are planning on taking the second exam (OCPJP) in the next six months or so, I recommend taking the OCAJP 7 because the Java 8 version of the second exam isn't out yet.
  • The OCAJP 7 is either a little or a lot easier depending on who you ask. IT's definitely a little easier as you have the same amount of time to answer 7 less questions and the pass score is slightly lower. (Another poster in this forum says he has heard the questions are harder on the OCAJP 8. I didn't experience that personally.)
  • If you want a physical book and not an e-book, only OCAJP 7 books exist. (My book for the OCAJP 8 is currently the only one on the market. The e-book is out and the printed book is coming out in the next few weeks. If you are outside the US, it will take longer.


  • All this looks like it points to the OCAJP 7 (exam 803). I think it is more useful to look at my bullets rather than just the answer. That way you can decide what is most important to you rather than "someone on the internet said I should take X" .

    Two months is likely to be tight going from knowing absolutely no Java to taking the test. I strongly recommend that you finish going through whatever book you are using for introduction to Java before studying for the certification. Buying the book earlier is a good idea to allow for shipping though.
     
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    Hi Akshay,

    I think Jeanne covered your questions well, so I just want to make a few small additions.

    In this topic another rancher has exactly the same question as you about 1Z0-803 or 1Z0-808. And in this post you'll find an up-to-date overview of all study guides available for both OCAJP7 and OCAJP8. And this thread contains useful information to start your preparation for OCAJP certification.

    akshay naidu wrote:i've set a target of two months to prepare myself for a certification.

    If you are completely new to Java, 2 months probably won't be enough. I think somewhere between 4 and 6 months will be more realistic, but of course it depends on a bunch of criteria (e.g. time you can spend each day, your current Java & OO level, your learning speed,...)

    Hope it helps!
    Kind regards,
    Roel
     
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    Two months seems very aggressive if you are just starting java. You haven't mentioned whether you have any programming experience on another language but if you don't have it, then two months is, well, very very aggressive

    Anyway, we recommend taking the most recent exam. For the simple reason that the exam will be replaced by a new version in two years. So if you work towards the version 7 exam, effectively, you are already working towards an obsolete version. Obsolete may be a harsh word here but you get the idea.

    My advice - Don't look for a reason to take v7. Just take 8. If there is a reason for taking 7, it will come to you automatically. For example, company policy or client requirement.

    There is already a good book for 8 in the market. By the time you start for ocpjp8, there will be material for that also. And even if there is no book exclusively geared towards the exam, that is no reason to not study for it. There will be regular books, tutorials, and mock exams. Study from them.
     
    akshay naidu
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    thanks a lot to Jeanne Boyarsky, Roel De Nijs and Paul Anilprem for this valuable information.
    my doubts are somewhat clear.
    i'll go with 803. and for understanding java i am referring oracle javase tutorial and OCAOCP Java SE 7 Programmer I & II Study Guide (k&b) for exam prepration.
    thank you once again
    and please let me know if there's something more to see.
     
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    akshay naidu wrote:and please let me know if there's something more to see.

    The Enthuware mock exams are also highly recommended. Excellent value for money!
     
    akshay naidu
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    yeah, i just downloaded its trail version
     
    It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
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