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Do you think JAVA8 certification is worth the effort and the money - SURVEY ?

 
Luca Ali
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Hi guys,
some of you know me for sharing my Java and Spring certification on my blog.
I shared my experience for the Java professional 1Z0-804 here and for the Spring Core here. (I do not monetise the blog so check it out only if you are interested!)

I am soon going to share my experience about Java Associate 1z0-803 certification.

With Java 8 certification now active and Spring Web in my radar, my question is the following:

Do you guys feel that these certification are worth the effort and the money ?

Do you think companies look and value them ?

Are you going to try JAVA 8 1z0-808 certification (thanks Jeanne for your book ;))?

I wanted to make this a proper survey but I haven't found the right features.

Thanks for all the ones that answer !
 
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Luca Ali wrote:Do you guys feel that these certification are worth the effort and the money ?

Do you think companies look and value them ?

Are you going to try JAVA 8 1z0-808 certification (thanks Jeanne for your book ;))?

My personal opinion about these questions:
  • Yes, I think the OCAJP8 (and OCPJP8) certifications are definitely worth the effort (and money). I listed a few (personal) benefits in this post.
  • I think that really depends. I assume consultancy companies would prefer certifications and even encourage them, because it is a means to prove the consultant knows Java quite well. I always try to encourage other Java developers to get certified. The few times I had a job interview, it was noticed each time (and I got few questions, probably to check it isn't a lie ). I also interviewed a few people in the recent past, although I'm happy to see a cert on the CV, it's not a requirement to get a Java developer position; but it could make the difference between two equal candidates.
  • I'll take the OCAJP8 within the next 6 months


  • Kind regards,
    Roel
     
    Luca Ali
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    Thanks Roel for our answer !
    Very interesting point of view.

    What do others think about this ?
    Anybody against certifications ?

    Thanks
     
    Jeanne Boyarsky
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    Luca Ali wrote:Anybody against certifications ?

    The people who visit the OCAJP forum are unlikely to be against certifications. I've added to jobs discussion to get a more balanced opinion.

    I'm (obviously) not against certifications. What I am against is people who pass the certification and don't know the basics of the material.
     
    Tim Cooke
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    In principle I'm not against certifications. However, I don't hold any certifications, nor have I ever been asked about it when applying for a job. In fact I don't think I've ever been asked about it at any time. Perhaps it's different in other parts of the World, but where I live most folks just aren't that bothered about it.
     
    Luca Ali
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    Hey Tim,
    you should tell us where you live now
     
    Tim Cooke
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    I live in the UK. Previously in England, now Northern Ireland.
     
    Luca Ali
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    Thanks Tim for your feedback !
    How about the others ?
    Anybody from USA ?
    I may be moving there one day. Do you have any thoughts about the value of having certs on your cv ?
     
    Sergei Zhylinski
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    As I understand, it is not required to have a certificate. If a person wants to become a junior developer, he should apply to OCA and OCP. These certifications cover almost all the questions, that are usually asked for a junior position.

    Higher certificates (EE expert and others) can help you if you have working experience. For instance, if you are working with Hibernate or Servlets you may pass EE JPA Expert and WCD Expert. It will sharpen your understanding of these topics. These certificates provide some minimal knowledge, that a developer should know and shouldn't waste time to read documentation. But if you don't have any experience but have these certificates it decreases your chance to find a good job.
     
    arulk pillai
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    Good developers are motivated to learn continuously. If certification is what motivates you to learn, then go for it.
     
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