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Is Hibernate Dead?

 
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Tomorrow we are jumping in head first with Hibernate for our project.

However, I was just over at the Hibernate forum asking a few questions, and I could hear a pin drop.

Is Hibernate dead? If it is indeed dead, what are the 'hot new' alternatives that everyone is embracing. If it is not dead, where is the forum of choice for Hibernate discussions?

Reference: https://forum.hibernate.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1038212

Note: I find this article of interest: http://blog.jooq.org/2014/04/11/java-8-friday-no-more-need-for-orms/

How about jOOQ?

Thank you so much,
Robert
 
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Interesting point of view, what is described in jooq blog link, I.e using streams methods and lambda expressions to fetch object for data....
It may be a good idea. About Hibernate.... It think that with Jpa a lot of oorm frameworks are having hard times..
 
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Claude Moore wrote:It think that with Jpa a lot of oorm frameworks are having hard times..

Ummm, Hibernate is a JPA implementation. (In addition to their proprietary API)
 
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Bear Bibeault wrote:
Claude Moore wrote:It think that with Jpa a lot of oorm frameworks are having hard times..

Ummm, Hibernate is a JPA implementation. (In addition to their proprietary API)

That's true, what I meant to say is that while till some years ago Hibernate was *the* ORM, the most popular, the real (working) alternative to Entity beans, now that JPA - which dues a lot to Hibernate - is a Java standard, there are
valid alternatives ( for example Toplink for Oracle). And - at least for me - if you have a jpa implementation shipped with your appserver, why should one choose another one?
 
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Robert James Liguori wrote:
Is Hibernate dead? If it is indeed dead, what are the 'hot new' alternatives that everyone is embracing. If it is not dead, where is the forum of choice for Hibernate discussions?

Reference: https://forum.hibernate.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1038212

Note: I find this article of interest: http://blog.jooq.org/2014/04/11/java-8-friday-no-more-need-for-orms/



I don't think Hibernate is dead (I think it's still used in many projects). However, the official Hibernate forums have gone dead for many years now, IMO. Once upon a time (way back in around 2005) they used to be very active, with the Hibernate dev team and some very smart and helpful members actively participating in the forums to answer the users' questions. In fact, from what I remember, they used to also give out books as rewards to top community contributors in the forums. But a few years after that (I think a year or two), participation in those forums just went down. The questions were still being asked in those forums but no one was around to actively answer those. Once in a while you would see someone answer the questions, but most of the time, the threads never received any kind of attention. I stopped watching those forums (I never was an active participant) since then. A few times after that, whenever I checked them, things hadn't changed much. Looking at the thread you quote, apparently they now have been bombarded with spam and no control over stopping it and no resources to move to a better infrastructure. That's a bad sign really for a project which I think is still considered by many as the most popular JPA implementation.
 
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The Hibernate forums may be dead, but I've got active production projects that use Hibernate JPA and they were still pushing out updates faster than I could find time to apply them last time I looked.
 
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