2 years of gap after 12th and MCA

[Ganish Patil]

I know It's not related to Java mainly but still I need help from this community as I like Java. I live in Pune India.
My profile
10th standard, pass out year 2003 with 43.88%
12th standard, pass out year 2007(2 years of gap) with 47.33%
Bachelor of computer application, pass out year 2010 with 71.68%
Master of computer application, , pass out year 2013 with 67.62%
No certification
After Master of computer application 2 years of gap. During final year project I worked in a small company on core Java. Did their small projects in swing. after that had gap. so what should I do now. I know core java and little adv. Java. I heard of fake certificate my friends are doing course for 25,000 Rs and fake certificate also but I feel guilt of such fake certificate and all so please need help what should I do now? I don't even know any Java framework. if I join class now then It will take 3,4 months for class again so don't want to spend more than a month as jobless. frankly I did nothing in gap and don't want to lie to any company. so please any suggestions

[Jeanne Boyarsky]

Don't lie about your experience. It's unethical and you'll probably get caught besides.

Don't worry about the gap after your 12th. Only the most recent one matters since you can omit the other dates from your CV. (At least you can in the US; I hope India is similar in that regard.) As far as the more recent gap, you need to be able to answer what you were doing. Were you doing anything? Helping family? Working in a non-tech job? Traveling? I'll? If you were just lying on the couch, you are going to have to lie to the employer, because that sounds horrible.

Think about it from the point of view. Why should they hire someone who has done nothing to show interest in two years vs an eager college grad.

Also, get yourself some experience. it doesn't have to be paid. Create a github account. Start coding. Build an Android app. Do something to show you can code.

[Ganish Patil]

@ Jeanne Boyarsky Thank you so much. Yes your correct. Obviously If I owned a company why would I hire someone who did no job in 2 years. I did 4 projects in swing(Standalone Applications) for college students. Students have to make final year project in graduation. I did their projects. Few days ago I received your OCA Java 8 Programmer I. I know core java & in Adv Java servlet and JSP but because of gap I need to revise all.

What do you think should I prepare for OCA certification or just read basics of Java and start applying for job ? Is it necessary for me to know Java framework before applying for job ?
During final year project of MCA I worked as trainee for 4 months in a small company who used to do projects for college students mostly but just because of they were asking to copy codes from internet & had never used any Java framework I left that job(Actually It was an internship but I used to do their project & at home mine project. It was deal between us to get an internship in that company), though I was ready to work 9 am to 10 pm and I worked this much without salary. I can learn core Java and Adv Java by self study because I did small projects in that but have no notion about Framework so for that I need to join a class and I don't want to spend more than 30-40 days as unemployed. I know I may sound quite weird but please..

[Jeanne Boyarsky]

You can learn a framework like Spring from a book. The thing is that you are going to need to show you can code. I think creating a github profile and getting some code on there is going to help more than taking the OCA.

What's the hurry all of a sudden? You've been unemployed a good while. What's another month?

[Ganish Patil]

@ Jeanne In Ameerpet, Hyderabad, India there are so many classes which teaches Core Java, Adv Java, Spring & Hibernate in 6 months at least. My friend has been there & said they teach really great. Yes your correct as I spent this much time then what If I spend 6 months more for that.

[arulk pillai]

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:I think creating a github profile and getting some code on there is going to help more than taking the OCA.

Agree. Pay more attention to gaining hands-on experience. There are also paid online training courses, free blogs with good tutorials, free YouTube videos, etc. Do a bit of listening and do a bit of hands-on.

[Ganish Patil]

@ arulk pillai yes sir, thank you so much

[Karthick Pattabiraman]

Ganish Patil wrote:I know It's not related to Java mainly but still I need help from this community as I like Java. I live in Pune India.
My profile
10th standard, pass out year 2003 with 43.88%
12th standard, pass out year 2007(2 years of gap) with 47.33%
Bachelor of computer application, pass out year 2010 with 71.68%
Master of computer application, , pass out year 2013 with 67.62%
No certification
After Master of computer application 2 years of gap. During final year project I worked in a small company on core Java. Did their small projects in swing. after that had gap. so what should I do now. I know core java and little adv. Java. I heard of fake certificate my friends are doing course for 25,000 Rs and fake certificate also but I feel guilt of such fake certificate and all so please need help what should I do now? I don't even know any Java framework. if I join class now then It will take 3,4 months for class again so don't want to spend more than a month as jobless. frankly I did nothing in gap and don't want to lie to any company. so please any suggestions

Never fake your experience. Even if you get away with it now it will come and bite you in the future. I have seen people working for a organization for several years getting fired because some client background verification turned negative. So don't do that.

Next, your 10th and 12th percentage are not very good, so as a fresh graduate (0 experience) leading companies will not pick your CV. Leading companies expect 60% in India. So your best bet is with small and medium size companies.

First job is always the tough one to get and that's the one that mostly decide your career. My suggestion would be, do not restrict yourself in terms of location or technology. Lot of companies that hire people with 0 experience do not expect you to be skilled in any technology in specific. The test your genera aptitude and attitude. Having Java knowledge is a added advantage.

And do not believe training academy that offers placement after training. Most of them are fake.

So update your CV in all job portals, be active in social media like Facebook, LinkedIn and twitter. Lot of job related information gets posted there.

I hope these suggestion helps. All the best!!

[Ganish Patil]

@ Karthick Pattabiraman Thank you I'll follow your advice.

[Satyaprakash Joshii]

Even I do not have good academic percentage in 12th and BE and gap between 12th and BE. I work for IT industry and now have 7 years experience.I had to struggle a lot in first few years because of this. I had got job in a small company after trying for 2 years. After working there for 2 years, I could switch to bigger companies. Although we do not have good academic record, we have to do something extra to compensate for that and keep an attitude that although we do not have good marks but we will show the world that we are good. I noticed that in companies there are many kinds of resources, some are very good but some are average too. Some people I have seen have excellent academic record but they struggle in companies as their skill of memorising something and reproducing in exams is of not much use in doing project work in companies. On the other hand I have seen few resources who had miserable academic record but they are quite good in doing actual work in companies. The cases I have discussed here is not all but few exception cases.So just work hard on your skills and show the world now that you are good despite your poor academic record.

[Ganish Patil]

@ Joshi Thank you Sir. Yes I've been working hard. Reading books and practicing 8-10 hours a day. Will also do few small projects so I can show the recruiter I can code and develop an application. If you know any small scale Java company in Pune. please email me at [e-mail]. I know I'll search my self after 1-2 month still if you know then, will be splendid.