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Thanks! Passed the OCAJP7 exam today

 
Richard Newman
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I'm glad they knocked the passing score down to 63%. I only made a 71% on it but I passed! Thanks again guys!

That test was much harder than the enthuware IMO. I got some really strange questions and I'm 99.9% sure that one of them was just plain wrong in terms of answers. But it doesn't matter now b/c I passed that ridiculous test!

So what would be the next step for someone like me to go about getting hired on somewhere? Is there a certain phrase or job title I should be looking for? As with most things, a plan that was in place to hire me on if I passed that test fell through (person was a liar basically thinking I could never do it). Thanks for any input!
 
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I should mention on enthuware I was scoring in the upper 70's and low 80's with a steady trend of getting better and better.
 
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congratulations
next step OCJP - go go go.
and try find job as well.
 
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Is the OCJP as hard as this test was? It really felt like this test wasn't a true test of ability or knowledge, more of a "can you spot the trick" kinda thing.
Is the OCJP a little more straightforward or do they chunk trick questions at you like an out of control pitching machine???
 
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You aren't going to like this, but the OCP is significantly harder than the OCA. In the content it covers - there's more to learn and you have to know it deeper. The trickiness level is about the same though.
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:You aren't going to like this, but the OCP is significantly harder than the OCA. In the content it covers - there's more to learn and you have to know it deeper. The trickiness level is about the same though.


I kinda figured as much.

I guess I'll look for work first then and tackle that later on in the future. What keywords should I be using to search for a job given that I have no real programming background other than some Javascript (very limited) and this certification?
 
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If in the US, "entry level". If you have experience in something else, it is tricker beucas eyou can look for things that match your current skill set and add programming.

Some countries, like India, use other words like "fresher".
 
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Richard Newman wrote:That test was much harder than the enthuware IMO.

Did you do 7, or 8? Did you use the matching Enthuware? Contrats!
 
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Guillermo Ishi wrote:
Richard Newman wrote:That test was much harder than the enthuware IMO.

Did you do 7, or 8? Did you use the matching Enthuware? Contrats!

Because he mentions 63% as the passing score, he did OCAJP7 (the passing score for OCAJP8 is 65%).
 
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Hi Richard,

Congratulations champion! Great achievement Now it's time to relax a bit and have a (well-deserved) (or 2 or 3). And if you want to spoil yourself have a Belgian beer, our beers are the best of the world

Don't forget to add your name to the OcajpWallOfFame!

Richard Newman wrote:So what would be the next step for someone like me to go about getting hired on somewhere? Is there a certain phrase or job title I should be looking for?

I agree with the suggestions already made by other ranchers. Like already mentioned, the OCPJP exam is much harder than OCAJP: you need to learn more and need a deep knowledge of it. So I would try to get an entry-level job as a Java programmer first. That gives you tons of experience about Java development and you'll be practicing your Java knowledge on a daily basis (and you get paid as well ). And when you feel you are ready for the OCPJP exam (maybe after half a year), start with reading/studying the OCA book again. It's a great refresher and for the OCPJP you still need to the OCA content.

Kind regards,
Roel
 
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Roel De Nijs wrote:
Guillermo Ishi wrote:
Richard Newman wrote:That test was much harder than the enthuware IMO.

Did you do 7, or 8? Did you use the matching Enthuware? Contrats!

Because he mentions 63% as the passing score, he did OCAJP7 (the passing score for OCAJP8 is 65%).

I wonder if they re-wrote the test again. They changed it about this time last year.
 
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Guillermo Ishi wrote:I wonder if they re-wrote the test again. They changed it about this time last year.

To be honest I don't think they re-wrote the whole question bank again. That would be a very daunting task (as all these new questions must be evaluated and verified for errors). But maybe they added a limited set of new questions to the question bank. That's always a possibility. And with the very general definition of the exam objectives, these new questions could cover "new" topics as well (which might not be covered by study guides and/or mock exams).
 
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Roel De Nijs wrote:
Guillermo Ishi wrote:I wonder if they re-wrote the test again. They changed it about this time last year.

To be honest I don't think they re-wrote the whole question bank again. That would be a very daunting task (as all these new questions must be evaluated and verified for errors). But maybe they added a limited set of new questions to the question bank. That's always a possibility. And with the very general definition of the exam objectives, these new questions could cover "new" topics as well (which might not be covered by study guides and/or mock exams).


They could pull in lots and lots from the fresh new 8 test, with its proverbial "corner-casedness" and "if you studied for 7 and expect to do well on 8, you're in for a surprise." Which was authoritatively used to describe the 8 beta at least.
 
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Roel De Nijs wrote:
Guillermo Ishi wrote:I wonder if they re-wrote the test again. They changed it about this time last year.

To be honest I don't think they re-wrote the whole question bank again. That would be a very daunting task (as all these new questions must be evaluated and verified for errors). But maybe they added a limited set of new questions to the question bank. That's always a possibility. And with the very general definition of the exam objectives, these new questions could cover "new" topics as well (which might not be covered by study guides and/or mock exams).


I can tell you that about 10 of the 70 questions were focused solely on arraylists. I studied them, understood them pretty good, but some of the questions they asked about them were rough waters. Especially when they were casting variables from say a "list" to arraylist. That got confusing. There were quite a few questions about casting too, which is why I was SUPER glad I spent some time on casting the day before the exam.
 
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