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“There are apartments where two people are registered, but where 10 actually live.”


This quote was in an article in the nytimes today. People have to register to live somewhere? With whom?

Note: I posted in MD because this is a question about the quote and not the broader article. If it changes topic, any mods including me may move it to the Rattlesnake Pit.
 
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In a lot of European countries there is a requirement for residents to register their address with some local authority, possibly the police station. Whenever somebody moves they must re‑register their new address in the new locality.
 
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Also, if it is social housing which is let out by the council, then you have to register with the council the names of all the people who live there. I would hazard a guess that a lot of housing in the "immigrant" suburbs of Molenbeek is social housing.
 
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They don't do this in the US? :0

Here in the Netherlands, we register with the municipality. I moved 4 months ago, and it was a bit of a pain, because at the time my new address wasn't in their system yet!
 
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Stephan van Hulst wrote:They don't do this in the US? :0

Here in the Netherlands, we register with the municipality. I moved 4 months ago, and it was a bit of a pain, because at the time my new address wasn't in their system yet!



I started renting in another location in the UK about 4 months ago - because I am renting privately, I did not have to register with anyone. The bills and council taxes are all included - my landlord pays them.

Now of course, if you are working then you let your employers know of your change of address, and that change gets registered with HMRC, and if you have a car, you have to let DVLA and your car insurance company know, but if you don't have a car and aren't working and aren't interested in registering to vote, then no one would necessarily know.
 
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Ahmed Bin S wrote:I started renting in another location in the UK about 4 months ago - because I am renting privately, I did not have to register with anyone. The bills and council taxes are all included - my landlord pays them.

Now of course, if you are working then you let your employers know of your change of address, and that change gets registered with HMRC, and if you have a car, you have to let DVLA and your car insurance company know, but if you don't have a car and aren't working and aren't interested in registering to vote, then no one would necessarily know.


That's how it works in the US too. There are many things that gets your name registered including paying taxes.

For a few years, I rented privately and had every one of those things (taxes, bills, insurance, voting, drivers license, all mail, etc) going to a mailbox I was renting in the next community. So for all intents and purposes, I lived in the mailbox . The only thing I used my actual address for was when friends visited and when I needed to have a background check. There was nothing shady here. There wasn't a mailbox store in the community I lived in and two in the next one over.

The quote made it sound like Belgium had some official list. Or maybe they were just overstating the confidence that they knew who lives where. I checked again and the most recent version of the article no longer has that quote. So maybe it was out of context.
 
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I'm renting privately as well, but taxes never go through our landlords.

They need to know my address so they can knock on my door when they find out what I do on the weekends :P
 
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Ahmed Bin S wrote:. . . aren't interested in registering to vote, then no one would necessarily know.

It is illegal for somebody eligible to vote not to register. But that is different from registering an address, since the address is recorded unchanged for about 1½ years irrespective of your actual location.
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:So for all intents and purposes, I lived in the mailbox . The only thing I used my actual address for was when friends visited



Yeah, well I guess it would have been a bit awkward for you and your friends to have a girls-night-in inside the mailbox ...
 
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