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Writing OCAJP 8 aka 1z0-808 after OCPJP 6 to prepare for OCMJD

 
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Hi

I have first written OCPJP 6 and passed it with 93%. Before proceeding to OCMJD i wanted to write OCAJP 8 and OCPJP 8 instead of writing OCPJP8 upgrade exam. Is it a good way to about with OCAJP and OCPJP rather than going with the OCPJP upgrade exam...
 
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krishnadhar Mellacheruvu wrote:Is it a good way to about with OCAJP and OCPJP rather than going with the OCPJP upgrade exam...

There's nothing wrong with following the OCAJP+OCPJP track instead of the OCPJP Upgrade track. Probably the only drawback: it's twice as expensive because you have to pay (and take) two exams.

Hope it helps!
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Thanks Roel,

Yeah i need to pay up for 2 exams(OCAJP 8 + OCPJP 8) when compared to (OCPJP8 upgrade from OCPJP6). But what i think is going with 2 exams would be an ample practice before i set out on the journey of OCMJD. Any thoughts in this aspect would be great.



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krishnadhar Mellacheruvu wrote:But what i think is going with 2 exams would be an ample practice before i set out on the journey of OCMJD. Any thoughts in this aspect would be great.

That would definitely not be the case, because the OCMJD is a complete different certification as the OCA/OCP certification. For the OCMJD you are required to complete an assignment (develop an application based on a set of instructions), take an essay exam (4 open questions about your assignment) and follow a (expensive) course. So this certification is really about writing Java code and actually creating an application which a GUI (using Swing), some network communication (using sockets or RMI) and accessing a data store (a random access file).
 
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Yes you are right Roel,

After your answer i in fact went again back and forth with the OCMJD track on oracle website and also checked in with the topics of (OCAJP+OCPJP)8 and what i really found out was just preparing and writing those 2 certs is not enough for OCMJD which required more rigorous work. All this while i was under the impression that preparing for these two certs is enough for the assignment+essay track for OCMJD.

Thanks for making me to understand it.

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krishnadhar Mellacheruvu wrote:After your answer i in fact went again back and forth with the OCMJD track on oracle website and also checked in with the topics of (OCAJP+OCPJP)8 and what i really found out was just preparing and writing those 2 certs is not enough for OCMJD which required more rigorous work.

You are absolutely correct! You can't compare the OCMJD certification with OCAJP and OCPJP, it's a completely different certification. And although OCAJP+OCPJP will cover topics which will be useful during implementing the OCMJD assignment (like threading, collections, file IO, NIO2.0,...) many other topics are not covered (swing, rmi/sockets,...). And these days you have 6 months to implement the assignment and if you have to combine it with a daily job and some kind of a social life, you really need so much time to create a decent application. If you want to read about an OCMJD experience, I shared them in this topic. I started in January and finished (uploaded) my assignment in May, so I spend 4-5 months on the assignment in total.

And now you also are required to take some Oracle course and those are pretty expensive which had of course a very bad influence on this certification exam
 
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yeah the courses are expensive but there are some courses that are relatively bit less than other courses say 15k here in indian currency. it took nearly 4 months for an expert pro like you. How much time do you think would it take for a relatively less experienced person. Is 6 months enough(given that to work on after office hours and weekend's.) Given the wealth of information here in the forum and people like you who are always ready to guide fellow java programmers i think 6 months for that would be enough....... . Any advice....


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krishnadhar Mellacheruvu wrote:it took nearly 4 months for an expert pro like you. How much time do you think would it take for a relatively less experienced person. Is 6 months enough(given that to work on after office hours and weekend's.) Given the wealth of information here in the forum and people like you who are always ready to guide fellow java programmers i think 6 months for that would be enough.

That's very hard to tell. Because everybody is different, we all have a different learning pace and some will code very fast while others need more time to implement a good design. But I think 6 months should be enough to get the job done. And if you are seriously considering the OCMJD certification, you can already do a whole lot to give you a head start:
  • read one of the books on this certification (most of them are pretty old but because it's about concepts and design are definitely not outdated)
  • read the paper of my good buddy Roberto Perillo about OCMJD
  • have a look at the OcmjdFaq and OcmjdWallOfFame which will provide a very good impression about what to expect
  • if you think you are not experienced enough for this certification, you can first follow one of the courses which focuses on application development to get more experience


  • And when you have (almost) completed this list, then you purchase the voucher for the assignment of the OCMJD certification and that's when the 6 months period will start. This way you'll have spent several weeks maybe months preparing for the certification but you'll still have 6 months to finish your assignment

    Hope it helps!
    Kind regards,
    Roel
     
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    That's a good plan by the way Roel....
     
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