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Charles D. Ward
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So I wanted to buy a voucher for the 1Z0-808 exam, but just realized the price is now $245US! It was like $150US or something just a couple of weeks ago if I remember correctly. Is this an usual practice for Oracle?

Needless to say, I'm definitely not taking the exam anymore. I live in a 3rd world dumpster and that is a LOT of money here.
 
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Charles D. Ward wrote:So I wanted to buy a voucher for the 1Z0-808 exam, but just realized the price is now $245US! It was like $150US or something just a couple of weeks ago if I remember correctly. Is this an usual practice for Oracle?

According to this thread, the exam price was lowered a bit two years ago. I also know that Oracle shamelessly increased the price in euros 5-6 months ago (and probably uses the currently strong dollar (against the euro) as an excuse): in this post the price was 193 euro and currently it is 212 EUR (which is approximately 230 USD, so we still have a little benefit ).

I also know Oracle uses different prices for different countries depending on the living standard of the country. If I look at the official Java SE 8 Programmer I (1Z0-808) web page and I check the price for Belgium, it's 212 EUR (+- 230 USD). If I do the same for Egypt, it's EGP 1126 (+- 145 USD). For Chile, it's CLP 90915 (+- 125 USD). And for Malaysia, it's MYR 529 (+- 120 USD). So it really depends on which country your living in. You probably better buy a voucher through your local Oracle University.

Finally here is Oracle's pricing policy:
Oracle wrote:Pricing Policy

When there are differences in the currencies accepted by Oracle University and the test vendor (Pearson VUE) for a particular country, the exam price will be provided in the currency offered by Oracle University. In these cases, candidates can either (1) purchase a voucher through Oracle University in the currency offered (usually local currency), or (2) purchase the exam directly from test vendor at the currency offered by the test vendor. Candidates will need to check exam prices at www.pearsonvue.com/oracle to confirm the currency accepted by the vendor for the selected exam. Exam price currency conversions are reviewed and updated annually at Oracle, and due to daily currency rate fluctuations - the USD price may not always exactly map to the stated price in local currency. Note that we will not provide refunds or adjustments for fluctuating currencies.


Hope it helps!
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Roel
 
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Roel, thanks a bunch for your help! I changed the country and now I'm seeing a much more affordable price (and I also feel like a complete idiot now).
 
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Charles D. Ward wrote:Roel, thanks a bunch for your help! I changed the country and now I'm seeing a much more affordable price

Glad to hear I could help. And that the exam price is (again) affordable to you. Now you can take the exam and soon be an Oracle Certified Associate, Java SE 8 Programmer.

Charles D. Ward wrote:(and I also feel like a complete idiot now)

Don't worry! We all have had one (or more) facepalm moments. Otherwise this kind of pictures were not thriving on the internet
 
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Roel De Nijs wrote:I also know Oracle uses different prices for different countries depending on the living standard of the country. If I look at the official Java SE 8 Programmer I (1Z0-808) web page and I check the price for Belgium, it's 212 EUR (+- 230 USD).

<Oracle rant>
And when I took it (in Belgium, in 2009, when Java was still owned by Sun), it was ≈€90. And the Java Certified Developer exam - which looked much more interesting, but required SCJP as a prerequisite - was about €200.

Unfortunately, by the time I was ready to take the second one, Oracle had already got their greedy mitts on it, and it was around €2,000; which is why I've never taken it.

Clearly, Oracle feel that education is only for the country club set.
</Oracle rant>

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Winston Gutkowski wrote:Unfortunately, by the time I was ready to take the second one, Oracle had already got their greedy mitts on it, and it was around €2,000; which is why I've never taken it.

I took the SCJD back in 2009 so I was lucky to take it in the Sun(ny) days But then Oracle decided to add a mandatory course requirement on October 1, 2011 and this decision drastically decreased the popularity of this fun (and interesting) certification. Back in those days I was very active in our SCJD forum and I had really very interesting and enlightning discussions with fellow ranchers trying to complete their assignment. It was a very lively forum, but sunce the mandatory course requirement it has become a ghost town with on average 1 new topic each month. Really a great pity!
 
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Roel De Nijs wrote:I took the SCJD back in 2009 so I was lucky to take it in the Sun(ny) days

Colour me green.

And I wonder how much of Oracle's profits come from jacking up prices like that? 0.001%?

Of course, maybe it was their capitalist way of saying that they don't really want to be in the "education biz" any more...

As you say: a huge pity.

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Oracle had already got their greedy mitts on it
Even in India Rs 9604 means a big amount for a student or anyone from middle class family.
 
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Winston Gutkowski wrote:And I wonder how much of Oracle's profits come from jacking up prices like that? 0.001%?

To be honest, I think the main reason for adding this course requirement was simply because this certification was too much hassle on their side and therefore not cost effective. Most certifications are graded completely automatically: you take the exam, hit the Finish button and the software calculates your score resulting in a pass or fail grade. But for the OCMJD certification the grading process needs to be done manually: an instructor (or someone else) has to look at your code, verify if it's according to the instructions, verify if it's working correctly in different modes (standalone and networking) without deadlocking,... Then he has to verify based on your essay exam, if you have developed the assignment yourself. And finally the instructor needs to score the different sections (general considerations, documentation, networking,...) resulting in a pass or fail grade. That's waaaaaaaay more work than a multiple choice exam for the same price.
 
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Roel De Nijs wrote:To be honest, I think the main reason for adding this course requirement was simply because this certification was too much hassle on their side and therefore not cost effective,

Education rarely is for providers, unless it's subsidised or - as in the US (and unfortunately in the UK now) - you can lumber recipients with a fabulous debt to pay for it.

Most certifications are graded completely automatically: you take the exam, hit the Finish button and the software calculates your score resulting in a pass or fail grade.

Yeah, which is why IMO they're crap.

But for the OCMJD certification the grading process needs to be done manually: an instructor (or someone else) has to look at your code, verify if it's according to the instructions, verify if it's working correctly in different modes (standalone and networking) without deadlocking,... Then he has to verify based on your essay exam, if you have developed the assignment yourself. And finally the instructor needs to score the different sections (general considerations, documentation, networking,...) resulting in a pass or fail grade.

What??? You mean an actual adjudication? Where somebody has to be involved? And here was me thinking Java was recursive....

But I fear we're getting into Rattlesnake Pit territory here.

Winston
 
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