• Post Reply
  • Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic

Some questions about the OCJP certification

 
Nithin Kumar
Greenhorn
Posts: 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Dear All,

I always wanted to take up the OCJP certification, and i am willing to complete this certification.
I have certain questions in mind...

1) I am currently reading the 'Sun certified programmer for java 6 ' by Kathy Sierra and Bert Bates. At first i thought of taking java 8, and then i read that i need to be atleast java 6 Certified if i take on java 7/8. What is the exam that i need to take on before i get into java 7/8.
2) What is the difference in associate and programmer level certification?
3) I am not sure whether to ask this in the forum, but since i am new to this community,I thought of writing this as well. Exam 310-065 is what is given in the material for java 6. I tried to search the https://education.oracle.com with this code, but i dint find any. However i found 1Z0-851 as the alternative for this. Are both exam courses same?

Looking for replies... thanks in advance...

Regards,
Nithin
 
Roel De Nijs
Sheriff
Posts: 10662
144
AngularJS Chrome Eclipse IDE Hibernate Java jQuery MySQL Database Spring Tomcat Server
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi Nithin Kumar,

First of all, a warm welcome to CodeRanch!

Nithin Kumar wrote:2) What is the difference in associate and programmer level certification?

Since Java 7, Oracle has split the certification in 2 parts: the OCA one is the entry-level exam and covers java and OO basics. The OCP is the more advanced exam and covers a lot of advanced topics (generics, threads, concurrency, jdbc, file i/o, nio2.0,...). So you need to pass 2 exams to become OCPJP certified. Before Java 7 you only needed to take just 1 exam (OCPJP6) to become OCPJP certified, but this exam (of course) covers both java and OO basics and the more advanced topics (generics, threads, file i/o,...). So it's harder to pass for the OCPJP6 than it would be for the OCAJP7 or OCAJP8.

Nithin Kumar wrote:1) I am currently reading the 'Sun certified programmer for java 6 ' by Kathy Sierra and Bert Bates. At first i thought of taking java 8, and then i read that i need to be atleast java 6 Certified if i take on java 7/8. What is the exam that i need to take on before i get into java 7/8.

If you want to become an Oracle Certified Professional, Java Programmer, you can currently choose between 3 paths: OCPJP6 or OCAJP7+OCPJP7 or OCAJP8+OCPJP8 (there are no prerequisites for either of these exams). For the first one, you only have to pass one exam (as mentioned earlier); for both other paths you need to pass two exams (an entry-level and an advanced level). In this thread you'll find an overview of all possible paths (OCPJP6, OCAJP7+OCPJP7 or OCAJP8+OCPJP8) you could take to become an OCPJP certified Java programmer. And this thread also contains some valuable information about which OCA version to choose. So I would advice to read these threads and if you still have questions or doubts, just hit the reply button and let us know! But if you don't have any specific reasons, you should just go with OCAJP8 (and OCPJP8).
Another possible path is to take an upgrade exam. But this exam requires you have already a prior OCPJP (or SCJP) certification. You can upgrade to OCP, Java SE 7 Programmer from any OCJP or SCJP version. And you can also upgrade to Java SE 8 OCP from Java SE 7 OCP or from Java SE 6 and all prior versions. More information can be found here.

Nithin Kumar wrote:3) I am not sure whether to ask this in the forum, but since i am new to this community,I thought of writing this as well. Exam 310-065 is what is given in the material for java 6. I tried to search the https://education.oracle.com with this code, but i dint find any. However i found 1Z0-851 as the alternative for this. Are both exam courses same?

The acquisition of Sun Microsystems by Oracle Corporation was completed on January 27, 2010. Now all the certifications are renamed: the equivalent of the SCJP is now the OCPJP certification exam. And also the exam numbers are renamed/changed. Exam 310-065 (old Sun exam) is exactly the same as Exam 1Z0-851 (current Oracle exam).

In the OcajpFaq (besides other very useful information) and this thread you'll find an overview of all available resources (study guides, mock exams,...) to thorougly prepare yourself for the certification exam. And on the OcajpWallOfFame you'll find plenty of (links to) experiences from other ranchers (including resources they have used). So it can be useful to determine which resources are useful (and which are not).

Hope it helps!
Kind regards,
Roel
 
Nithin Kumar
Greenhorn
Posts: 5
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Thanks Roel for the quick response .....

Now i have a clear insight on the certification details... will be in touch with the progress or any clarification needed on the concepts..

Regards,
Nithin
 
Scott Selikoff
author
Saloon Keeper
Posts: 4031
18
Eclipse IDE Flex Google Web Toolkit
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
For both education and professional reasons, I recommend always certifying on the latest exam. It looks better on a resume (if that is something you care about) and means it will last the longer before needing to re-certify. On the education point, I love using streams and lambda expressions now in my day-to-day coding, so I think learning Java 8 has added value as a developer.

To be Java 8 OCA/OCP certified, there three paths:
1) OCA8[1Z0-808] + OCP8[1Z0-809]
2) OCA7[1Z0-803] + OCP7[1Z0-804] + OCP8-Upgrade7[1Z0-810]
3) OCP6[1Z0-851] + OCP8-Upgrade6[1Z0-813]

Unless you happen to have one of the previous certifications under your belt, the first option is generally the easier of the three. The second option requires three exams, while the third option requires taking the OCP6 which is going to be harder than the OCA8
 
Nithin Kumar
Greenhorn
Posts: 5
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Thanks Scott for the information...

 
Roel De Nijs
Sheriff
Posts: 10662
144
AngularJS Chrome Eclipse IDE Hibernate Java jQuery MySQL Database Spring Tomcat Server
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Scott Selikoff wrote:Unless you happen to have one of the previous certifications under your belt, the first option is generally the easier of the three. The second option requires three exams, while the third option requires taking the OCP6 which is going to be harder than the OCA8

I agree! You would never do the second one as it requires to (purchase and) take three exams (whereof two advanced ones). For the first and third one you have to (purchase and) take two exams, but the OCA8 will be easier than the OCP6. That's why you'll almost always opt for the first path. The only reason why you would opt for the third path: if you want to become OCP certified as soon as possible with only taking one exam. So while you are preparing for the OCP8-Upgrade6 exam, you will already be OCP certified.
 
  • Post Reply
  • Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic