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Zahro Alfelpha
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So yea, over the past month or so I have posted multiple questions here and have not gotten a single reply on any of them! Is this some kind of elite community that only replies to those questions they deem worthy?
 
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Is this some kind of elite community that only replies to those questions they deem worthy?


Yes!  That is exactly what it is. 

Nobody here is getting paid.  Everybody answers questions on a strictly volunteer basis.  So they tend to focus on answering questions on stuff they know a bit about and they like the vibe of the way the question was asked. 

 
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paul wheaton wrote:
Is this some kind of elite community that only replies to those questions they deem worthy?


Everybody answers questions on a strictly volunteer basis.



Are there places where this isn't the case?
 
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Zahro Alfelpha wrote:
paul wheaton wrote:
Is this some kind of elite community that only replies to those questions they deem worthy?


Everybody answers questions on a strictly volunteer basis.



Are there places where this isn't the case?


I suppose so.  It is where you pay to get answers to your questions.  I suspect you could even get that to work here:  offer $100 for an answer to one of your questions.  

Hell, for $100, somebody might tell you how to ask a question so that all of your future questions will get answers for free.


 
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paul wheaton wrote:future questions will get answers for free.


Well at least now I know that there are actually people here, thanks!
 
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I've taken a look at your old questions, and it appears that they are about very specific topics.

I don't directly see anything wrong with your questions per se, but it looks like there just aren't many people who work with the combination of frameworks you are using.
 
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Stephan van Hulst wrote: there just aren't many people who work with the combination of frameworks you are using.


And I don't blame them. Struts is a super sad sad sad framework to work with. Especially after coming from a Grails development environment.
 
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Yeah, in my opinion, Struts was a horrid framework even during its hey-day. Now it's not only horrid, but antiquated.

I take it you are not using it willingly. Commiserations.
 
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Bear Bibeault wrote:I take it you are not using it willingly. Commiserations.


Thank you...Not only is it Struts, but it's Struts 1.3.8! :'( To top it off, all data access is done through an old AS400. So the queries must first be entered in the AS400 terminal (which I dont even have write access to, must ask a coworker for every small change), then mapped in iBatis xml, then implemented in 4 layers of DAO implementations/services  that make calls to the AS400, which of course require their own separate hard coded criteria classes to even function...and oh God I have to make a separate class for every url action and configuration is split between a million xml files and....dear God.

Wow. Sorry. lmao
 
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OK, what's two orders of magnitude beyond "commiserations"?  So sorry you're saddled with this.
 
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Haha, thanks It's not all bad though. The pay is great, coworkers are mostly cool, and it's giving me a HUGE appreciation for more modern frameworks and whatnot. I was a bit spoiled starting out with Grails, and now I have a major love for how awesome it really is.
 
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I like your attitude.
 
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Take a cow for the pain. Hopefully we can help with future questions.
 
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Stephan van Hulst wrote:Take a cow for the pain.


Wooo! My first cow Thanks!
 
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I wrote an article on Struts for Java Pro Magazine.

It was published in 2001.

In 2006, I switched to JavaServer Faces, and have been moderating the JSF forum for many of the years since then. There are a lot of legacy apps written in Struts in my (rather backwards) city, even now, but consider that several of the people who drew up the initial architecture of JSF were originally designers of Struts, and they had come to the conclusion that there wasn't any compatible way to fix the warts in Struts, which is why JSF is so different.

Disclaimer: Bear doesn't believe in canned frameworks. He uses the Bear Framework. I prefer something that I can send someone out to the local bookstore to learn, myself. Not that I think that there's anything wrong as such with DIY frameworks, just that I know that at heart, EVERY framework gets big and crufty over time, whether it's developed by a single person, small team, or committee, so I might was well use one that has more than just one overworked  person to extend, debug, document, make secure, etc., etc., etc.

I prefer JSF over Struts, because Struts requires creating more classes per page template than Struts does. Although I suspect (but haven't measured) that Struts may be better than JSF at high user loads. JSF's forte is making it easy to develop editable forms with lots of error checking on them.

The other reason I prefer JSF is that the Facelets component of JSF makes building a page out of tiles a lot less annoying than using Apache Tiles the way that Struts users (and exceptionally masochistic JSF users)  do. Yes, I noticed that that's one of the things that you were asking about!

And on that point, I'll add a (probably worthless) answer to your question there.
 
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Thanks for the insight!
 
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