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HTML5 Quick Reference Guide: book's content as regards client-side HTML5/JavaScript "stacks"

 
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Does the HTML 5 Quick Syntax Reference book call out any particular client-side stacks (i.e. HTML5->Angular->Bootstrap) as preferable?

I noticed this at the book's APress website: <You'll learn> How HTML5 works together with Java, JavaFX, JavaScript and CSS

Just wondered if any JavaScript frameworks/stacks are called out in the book and if not, what are your particular favorites?

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The book covers use with (WebKit) standard EcmaScript 262 JS so apps work across every platforms and device, not those which happen to have support for a particular stack. WJ
 
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Hi Wallace, I'm a tad confused by your answer. JS frameworks such as the aforementioned AngularJS and Bootstrap are supported by all of the major platforms and browsers as they are built upon standard JS and CSS support. Are there particular platform/browser combinations that you have in mind that lack such "support" yet still support the HTML5 and CSS3 standards?
 
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Node.js
Original author(s) Ryan Dahl
Written in C, C++, JavaScript
Operating system OS X, Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Microsoft Windows (older versions require Cygwin), webOS, NonStop OS
Type Event-driven networking
License MIT
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Not all platforms support these, as they are often written in C++ as Node.JS the most popular of them all, is (see above). So I code to WebKit, scratch-EcmaScript. as other libraries, even if you can get them to work, simply bundle more code into an app that does not need to be there, ala Flash, WordPress, etc. If these are all 100% Based on JS, it is more logical to write your own code than to write code using someone else's middleman code. Most use a fraction of what these provide, so like Unity, you get a 50MB executable for something you could have scratch coded in under 1MB. Same with Flash. I made an entire career delivering better client-side i3D content in 100X to 1000X smaller data footprint (64KB to 2MB). WJ
 
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NodeJS is not something I'd consider a client framework, but rather on the server side. I think the OP was asking about stacks on the client.

I personally don't use NodeJS on the server either -- I'm still a Java guy when to comes to server-side code.

And Flash, well, yeah that's always been a bit of a stinker.
 
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And I will personally disagree about the use of pure JS frameworks. They can make life a lot easier for client-side developers, but I will agree that they should be used with care and intelligence. I've seen way too many sites that include everything including the kitchen sink and only use a small fraction of it.
 
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I too tend to shy away from "JS all the way down", mainly because I have 15+ years of Enterprise Java, starting with a very early edition (can't remember the version) of Weblogic, so I'm much more comfortable with JTA/JPA/Spring/Hibernate/etc. on the server side.
Thanks for the replies on the client side frameworks.. I'm looking into all of the ones mentioned.
 
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