Java 9 Certification?

[Theo van Kraay]

It's probably a bit early to be asking this (and might even be the wrong place, if so apologies), but with Oracle pushing back the actual release of Java 9 until July 2017 (last I checked), does that mean we won't see the corresponding certification exams until some time in 2018? Also, I'm wondering what will actually be in the exams themselves, especially the upgrade exam, given that the "flagship" feature (modularisation) isn't really a language feature, and I can't detect a huge amount of other major changes. Would it be fair to say that Java 8 to Java 9 will not be nearly the same paradigm shift as 7 to 8 was?

[Jeanne Boyarsky]

Theo van Kraay wrote:It's probably a bit early to be asking this (and might even be the wrong place, if so apologies), but with Oracle pushing back the actual release of Java 9 until July 2017 (last I checked), does that mean we won't see the corresponding certification exams until some time in 2018?

This is the right place. And you are correct. I'd expect a 2018 release as well.

Theo van Kraay wrote:Also, I'm wondering what will actually be in the exams themselves, especially the upgrade exam, given that the "flagship" feature (modularisation) isn't really a language feature, and I can't detect a huge amount of other major changes. Would it be fair to say that Java 8 to Java 9 will not be nearly the same paradigm shift as 7 to 8 was?

Note that I don't work for Oracle so this is just my opinion. But it is a really interesting question so I'm going to speculate.

While there might be some other things they might include (like jshell), i agree that modularisation is the flagship feature.  There used to be way more on command line javac/java commands on the exam than there is with the Java 8 exam. I imagine that would come back to test understanding of requires/exports.

But even testing that, we don't have enough for an upgrade exam. This looks a lot like the situation with the Java 6 upgrade exam. Looking at the objectives, you can see they are mostly Java 4 and 5 features. Which makes sense as you could be upgrading from any old version of Java.

Now where this gets more interesting is that with Java 8, Oracle had two upgrade exams. "From 7" and from "6 or earlier".  Let's look at the possibilities for Java 9. If upgrading from Java 7 or earlier, there is plenty of stuff to ask. If upgrading from Java 8, not so much. My guess it it is like Java 6 where they just throw in the Java 8 stuff for review.

[Theo van Kraay]

Interesting. Well, I'd be upgrading from Java 8 (hence the interest), but to be honest... a bit of a review of streams and lambdas wouldn't be a bad thing! It was quite a mind bender...

[Raul Rios]

As you probably already know, Java 9 has recently been released (September 2017).

That doesn't mean Java 9 certification exams have also been released.

Oracle usually takes its time to release the certification exams. First there is a several-month period intended for beta exams (more about this at https://javacertificationroadmap.com/7-common-questions-about-the-java-certification/).

In case you are interested, beta exams can be a good opportunity to get your certification at a much lower cost (usually 50$).

All this being said, you're right: based on the previous Java exam releases, my guess is the Java 9 certification exam will be released some time in 2018.

[Jeanne Boyarsky]

Raul,
I thought that until Oracle announced their releases for 2018. Given that Java 9 doesn't have long term support, I don't think we can use the past to predict the future. I think they are going to skip the Java 9 cert and go straight to the Java 2018.9 cert. I also think cert books are going to be delayed because nobody knows what Oracle will do.

[Julius Sandi]

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Raul,
I thought that until Oracle announced their releases for 2018. Given that Java 9 doesn't have long term support, I don't think we can use the past to predict the future. I think they are going to skip the Java 9 cert and go straight to the Java 2018.9 cert. I also think cert books are going to be delayed because nobody knows what Oracle will do.

Hello Jeanne, one question. Now that java was released 10. it is more likely that the java 9 certification will not be released? it will be that java 11 will be the most durable version?

[Jeanne Boyarsky]

As I wrote in this thread five months ago, I never believe there would be a Java 9 cert. And now we know for sure.

I also don't there will be a Java 10 cert. I think Oracle will jump straight to Java 11. (formerly known as 18.9). They haven't stated anything though.

[Ahmed Ibrahim]

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:I also don't there will be a Java 10 cert. I think Oracle will jump straight to Java 11. (formerly known as 18.9)

Is this means OCP Java 11 certification will be released this year shortly after the releasing of Java 11 (formerly known as 18.9) ? or it will take long time such as what happened with Java 8 approximately 1 year after the releasing.

[Campbell Ritchie]

I don't think anybody knows yet.

[Jeanne Boyarsky]

Ahmed Ibrahim wrote:

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:I also don't there will be a Java 10 cert. I think Oracle will jump straight to Java 11. (formerly known as 18.9)

Is this means OCP Java 11 certification will be released this year shortly after the releasing of Java 11 (formerly known as 18.9) ? or it will take long time such as what happened with Java 8 approximately 1 year after the releasing.

Nobody knows. Oracle hasn't actually said they will release the cert for Java 11. I just speculate they will. And if we are speculating, I imagine it will take a good amount of time as well.

[Ahmed Ibrahim]

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Nobody knows. Oracle hasn't actually said they will release the cert for Java 11. I just speculate they will. And if we are speculating, I imagine it will take a good amount of time as well.

Thank you Jeanne for your reply