This week's book giveaway is in the Beginning Java forum.
We're giving away four copies of Getting started with Java programming language and have Ashish Sarin & J Sharma on-line!
See this thread for details.
Win a copy of Getting started with Java programming language this week in the Beginning Java forum!
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic

Question for Jeanne Boyarsky and Scott Selikoff  RSS feed

 
William Ng
Greenhorn
Posts: 16
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
I preparing to get certified for OCA sometime soon. I am on a tight budget and want to get the best preparation with as minimal expense as possible. I just got my CS degree almost a couple years ago, so I great deal of understanding of programming concepts, especially OOP. I also took a Java course early on the path to that degree and a have kept learning about the language and have frequently programmed projects in it. So I alos feel, I have a good grasp of the language. I don't think it would benefit me as much to but the study guide. However, I thinking about buying (i'm almost certain i'm going to) the practice tests, as feel, what I need is not studying of the language but questions which to help me practice and get a feel for what's going to be on the tests.

Thanks for the input.
 
Scott Selikoff
author
Bartender
Posts: 4078
20
Eclipse IDE Flex Google Web Toolkit
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
The exams can be difficult and if you're not familiar with the material you could end up spending money on an exam and have to pay to take it multiple times.  Given the the price of most study guides ($30) is almost one 10th the price of the exam ($245), I think it makes sense to buy a study guide.

I'm not even saying you need to buy our study guide.  But taking a certification exam without consulting any study guide is a bit risky if you ask me.
 
William Ng
Greenhorn
Posts: 16
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi, Scott

Thanks for replying. I want to mention that I have read a study guide for Java 7 certification a while back. So i'm not completely indolent about the topics that would be covered. I'm more of a practical person, and with my experience, I thought I could skip the study guide and start doing the questions. But if you insist, I will definitely try to find a way to read a study guide.
 
Scott Selikoff
author
Bartender
Posts: 4078
20
Eclipse IDE Flex Google Web Toolkit
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
If you're read a Java 7 study guide then you might be fine with taking the OCA 8 exam using online material and our practice test books.  The OCA 7 and OCA 8 have a lot of similarities.  Can't say the same for the OCP 8 exam.  It is *very* different from the OCP 7 exam and can be difficult even with a study guide.
 
Jeanne Boyarsky
author & internet detective
Marshal
Posts: 36171
439
Eclipse IDE Java VI Editor
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
William,
The study guide includes review questions and 3 mock exams. This book is *more* practice questions. If you were only buying one book, I strongly recommending buying a study guide and not the practice exam book.
 
Roel De Nijs
Sheriff
Posts: 10900
155
AngularJS Chrome Eclipse IDE Hibernate Java jQuery MySQL Database Spring Tomcat Server
  • Likes 1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
William Ng wrote:I also took a Java course early on the path to that degree and a have kept learning about the language and have frequently programmed projects in it. So I alos feel, I have a good grasp of the language. I don't think it would benefit me as much to but the study guide. However, I thinking about buying (i'm almost certain i'm going to) the practice tests, as feel, what I need is not studying of the language but questions which to help me practice and get a feel for what's going to be on the tests.

Let's start with a warning: the OCAJP certification exam requires a more in-depth knowledge of Java basics than you need to know to write Java applications. If you are programming an application you have one very good friend, namely your IDE. And this BFF complains each time you do something which is not allowed (illegal override, unreachable code, illegal cast,...). But on the actual exam you are completely on your own, no BFF to help you; and that's the reason why you need a much more in-depth Java knowledge.

And here's my advice: I would definitely buy Enthuware mock exams. There is absolutely no reason to doubt about this purchase! It's only 10 USD and excellent value for money. And since you are on a tight budget, you can better invest a few bucks and prevent a (very) expensive certification exam failure. The Enthuware mock exams software provides a starter test besides 6 full mock exams. Just take this starter test in "real exam mode" (time limit, only use pen & paper) and the score will tell you immediately if you are ready for the actual exam. If you consistently score 80% or more on the mock exams (on first attempt), you'll very likely to pass the actual exam. If you score less than 80%, you should do some additional studying before taking another mock exam using a study guide or online recources or both.

In the OcajpFaq (besides other very useful information) and this thread you'll find an overview of all available (free and commercial) resources (study guides, mock exams, video courses,...) to thorougly prepare yourself for the certification exam. And on the OcajpWallOfFame you'll find plenty of (links to) experiences from other ranchers (including resources they have used). So it can be useful to determine which resources are useful (and which are not).

Hope it helps!
Kind regards,
Roel
 
It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
  • Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
Boost this thread!