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I saw this in Henry Wong's message.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 43 minutes ago by Henry Wong
Why can't I edit my posts to polish them for later references?
 
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Rajib Ban wrote:
Why can't I edit my posts to polish them for later references?



For greenhorns (new users to the ranch), basically, you can't. Sorry...

Later, once you earned five cows, you will be given the ability to edit posts for a particular time period. The actual amount of time, along with other requirements, are still in flux.... meaning we are looking (and still looking) at relaxing this a bit more.

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Why do I have to earn? Just give me five cows!
 
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Rajib Ban wrote:Why do I have to earn? Just give me five cows!


Just to be clear on who gave the thumb down. It was me. We have one rule - "be nice", and your post reads as an order, which can be considered as a borderline post.
Community members don't execute orders that way, and hardly execute any orders. This site is driven by the volunteers.

And to answer to your direct question, you don't have to earn cows, it isn't mandatory. Please read a FAQ about the cows.
 
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And welcome to the Ranch.

We'll be waiting your high quality posts, so we could assign some thumbs up's or cows
 
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You have to earn cows because that is the condition we set for community members to get the privilege of editing their posts. Just handing out cows to everybody who asks wouldn't accomplish the goal of fostering helpful community behavior. So the more you contribute to the community with good, helpful posts, the more cows you'll earn, and the more perks you'll receive - being able to edit your posts isn't the only one.
 
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Also, be aware that Henry is a moderator on this site, and thus has super-powers not available to ranchers.
 
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Also, editing post rules vary over time. So you may or may not be able to edit posts forever even with cows.
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:...you may or may not be able to edit posts forever even with cows.




Henry Wong wrote:

Rajib Ban wrote:
Why can't I edit my posts to polish them for later references?


For greenhorns (new users to the ranch), basically, you can't. Sorry...

Later, once you earned five cows, you will be given the ability to edit posts for a particular time period.


I understand the concept of encouraging quality posts via cows and we're all grateful for the quality posts we receive everyday from Stephan, Roel, Henry, Campbell etc. I also understand why cows give you more privileges on the ranch. But I still don't get why correcting a spelling mistake or correcting a grammatical error is considered a privilege. Especially if all corrections are made before the first reply is posted. If the problem is that some users make too many corrections, then I would imagine that a maximum of 2 corrections (before the first reply is posted) sounds reasonable.

paul wheaton wrote:We have gone through a lot of different algorithms about editing, all in response to different issues. Within staff, there is currently some disagreement about what the algorithm should be, so I asked if somebody could come up with algorithms that will work for all staff instead of some staff forcing their ideas on other staff.   So far nobody has opted to make a plan, so nothing is changing.



paul wheaton wrote:...crazy happens.



paul wheaton wrote:You might think "how could there possibly ever be a problem?"  What, you haven't met crazy people before?  I am learning that the definition of "crazy" is that you cannot possibly predict the wackiness that comes next.



paul wheaton wrote:We would much rather talk about software engineering than stay on top of this kind of crazy.


These are quotes from this thread and so far, the best response I've received in respect to this matter, but I'm surprised that a year later, nothing is changing.
 
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These are quotes from this thread and so far, the best response I've received in respect to this matter, but I'm surprised that a year later, nothing is changing.



Well, to be quite honest, I think nobody really wants to tackle this. Paul is correct about the crazy stuff -- especially when coming from spammers. There are people (or automated systems) that will create a fake posts, wait for months, and then attempt to edit for spam. Heck, even with an hour edit period, there are edit attempts that change hidden spaces to add spam links.  What would that serve? Adding spam links that are hidden from view? ...

The ranch may have fantastic moderators, but, they are still people. And there is no way people can keep up with automated environments (or even lots of piece workers, working out of an internet cafe), and remain sane.

... but ... in the meantime, if someone can come up with a great idea, that will break this log jam, I have a bunch of cows with their name on it...

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Henry Wong wrote:. . . The ranch may have fantastic moderators,

Thank you

but, they are still people. And there is no way people can keep up with automated environments . . .

If there really is an issue with posts, we mods usually edit them on behalf of the users, though there was one post I declined to alter earlier today because correcting the mistake would have made its repleis look peculiar. I have spent probably an hour editing posts at users' requests . . . in the last two years. So, it isn't a big problem. Even if it is an annoyance to some users, which we are sorry about.
As Henry has pointed out, it is very difficult to find a post editing system which actually works. I think, rather than being reluctant to tackle it, I look on it as more of a case of, “It ain't broke, so don't fix it.” We have a system which although by no means perfect, doesn't have lots of big problems.
 
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We also have a way of returning a post to edit mode (under circumstances) so a user can edit it. That's useful if you managed to corrupt your code or something.
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:We also have a way of returning a post to edit mode . . .

I had forgotten about that; that procedure requires a mod verify the edits.
 
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