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It was nice and hot. I had ice cream to celebrate the day .

Happy ice cream day!
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:It was nice and hot. I had ice cream to celebrate the day .

Happy ice cream day!


I just wrote to an ice cream store to ask if they can do ice cream without sugar, that my girl friend likes it. I am an enemy of the sugar.
 
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Giovanni Montano wrote:I am an enemy of the sugar.



This link is in Dutch, but on request I can translate it for you.

"Make ice without fat and sugar but with lots of protein"

https://forum.bodybuilding.nl/topics/zelf-lekker-ijs-make-zonder-vet-en-suiker-maar-met-veeel-eiwitten.19520/

And. Yeah, I am a terrible vain health freak myself.

 
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Jan de Boer wrote:

Giovanni Montano wrote:I am an enemy of the sugar.



This link is in Dutch, but on request I can translate it for you.

"Make ice without fat and sugar but with lots of protein"

https://forum.bodybuilding.nl/topics/zelf-lekker-ijs-make-zonder-vet-en-suiker-maar-met-veeel-eiwitten.19520/

And. Yeah, I am a terrible vain health freak myself.


do not tell me I live since long time in the Netherlands and I am trying to speak with some ice cream stores to consider similar recipes.
I tried it already in Spain and in Italy and is just fantastic. Is a future trend for sure. After i saw the documentary the secrets of sugar I reduced my daily intake to less than 30 grams
 
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Giovanni Montano wrote:After i saw the documentary the secrets of sugar I reduced my daily intake to less than 30 grams


And what did it change?

The thing is, that I drink a lot coffee, of course with a sugar, 2.5 spoon for a standard cup. Now, that causes some problems I believe, the obvious visible is a weight (111 kg / 245 pounds).
Friend of mine had similar habits, so he opted out from sugar, just a coffee, and he claims he had some effect. So how about you?
 
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Jan de Boer wrote:"Make ice without fat and sugar but with lots of protein"

https://forum.bodybuilding.nl/topics/zelf-lekker-ijs-make-zonder-vet-en-suiker-maar-met-veeel-eiwitten.19520/


That sounds very nice. Ice cream is my favourite dessert, but I don't want to eat too much sugar and (saturated) fat.

I've been doing fitness for years, mostly body pump once a week, which is an hour long training in a class where you work on all your different muscle groups, with weights. It's a good workout and using the weights you can make it as light or heavy as you want.

However, this didn't really help me to get rid of excess body fat. So in the past 4 months I've been training more intensely, going to the gym and doing strength training 4 times per week, and also paying more attention to what I eat. This worked, I lost about 5-6 kg quite quickly (the first 6-8 weeks). Now I feel I am on a plateau - my weight is stable, I would like to gain some muscle but I have the feeling that is not progressing very rapidly. Maybe I'm now not eating enough?
 
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Jesper de Jong wrote: I would like to gain some muscle but I have the feeling that is not progressing very rapidly. Maybe I'm now not eating enough?


Muscles don't grow quick, rule number one, doing it naturally it takes decades, but they last the same amount of time it takes to grow them up if you stop doing sports. On a market there are lots of food supplements for sportsman which are meant to be healthy and give fairly quick results, let's say in gaining muscles mass, however, need to go back to rule number one.

I think regularly going to gym it gives you a stamina and actual strength in a long run, so the muscles are there, they might not that big, but isn't the size most important I think.

Looking to any guy who look muscled you can fairly accurately define what kind of muscles he got, majority of them are > 60 % of water inside, this is what those supplements do, gathering water inside.

My dad's friend is around 55 years old, he does gym since I remember him, without any supplements, there are results which you couldn't compare with nowadays trends.
 
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Liutauras Vilda wrote:

Giovanni Montano wrote:After i saw the documentary the secrets of sugar I reduced my daily intake to less than 30 grams


And what did it change?

The thing is, that I drink a lot coffee, of course with a sugar, 2.5 spoon for a standard cup. Now, that causes some problems I believe, the obvious visible is a weight (111 kg / 245 pounds).
Friend of mine had similar habits, so he opted out from sugar, just a coffee, and he claims he had some effect. So how about you?


Can fully confirm you. Please see the documentary, is really easy to find it on youtube. One of the main problems is that the sugar makes people fat, another one is that increases the inflamatory process a lot (with imaginable really bad long term consequences). Regarding the first point, the sugar is composed by fructose and glucose, the first one goes to the liver and if is in eccess becomes fat (and the fat works in synergy with the inflamatory process to cause every kind of disease).

Actually I am taking green tea (no coffee) and my mood is much more stable than before, I can be focused for more time, much more calm.  I am just taking coffee 2/3 times in the week.

What your friend say is true for two reasons. The first is explained before, the sugar makes people fat, more than the calories that are declared. The second one is that the coffee is well known accelerate the methabolism, so you burn more calories. So taking cofees without sugar makes more easy to lose weight.


The problem with the sugar is that is "added" in every commercial product we take even product we do not realize, for instance some tomato juice.

Also the sugar has an effect on the mood, people that do not take it, or better take it as much as should be taken (25-30 g per day)become much more balanced.
 
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Liutauras Vilda wrote:

Jesper de Jong wrote: I would like to gain some muscle but I have the feeling that is not progressing very rapidly. Maybe I'm now not eating enough?


Muscles don't grow quick, rule number one, doing it naturally it takes decades, but they last the same amount of time it takes to grow them up if you stop doing sports. On a market there are lots of food supplements for sportsman which are meant to be healthy and give fairly quick results, let's say in gaining muscles mass, however, need to go back to rule number one.

I think regularly going to gym it gives you a stamina and actual strength in a long run, so the muscles are there, they might not that big, but isn't the size most important I think.

Looking to any guy who look muscled you can fairly accurately define what kind of muscles he got, majority of them are > 60 % of water inside, this is what those supplements do, gathering water inside.

My dad's friend is around 55 years old, he does gym since I remember him, without any supplements, there are results which you couldn't compare with nowadays trends.


I am quite expert. To lose weight you have to consume more than you eat. So I just eat smart and move a lot, my treat is this one:
deskcycle.com

I set to 3 and can consume 400 calories during the 8 hours at work.
Another tip is to learning to run, starting really slowly with months you become always better. Once you are really good you become able to consume 800/1000 calories per hour.
Makes me happy as if would take natural cocaine( never tried so not sure), and no excuses for the age https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fauja_Singh, he runs 42km marathons at 104 years, and he started when he was 81
 
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It's much much more complicated than simply calories in versus calories out. While obviously eating right¹ and activity are large factors, they are far from the only factors. I have metabolism and gastric issues, for example, that make my life somewhat more "interesting" than that.




¹ though it's not always clear what exactly "eating right" means -- guidelines seem to change with the direction of the wind
 
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Has anyone tried the "Astronaut ice cream" ? Can you share your experience ?
 
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salvin francis wrote:Has anyone tried the "Astronaut ice cream" ? Can you share your experience ?


Yeah. It tastes like ice cream except for the not being cold and wet. It's a nice experience. Make sure you have a lot of water around so you don't get too thirsty afterwards.
 
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Just for the sake of more strange facts about the ice creams, here is the article which was on hot discussion here in UK and been heard all over the world (at least in a quite few places), not sure they exist anymore though, but I'm sure I wouldn't try.
 
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Liutauras Vilda wrote:Just for the sake of more strange facts ...


Ewwwww!!!
 
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Bear Bibeault wrote:It's much much more complicated than simply calories in versus calories out. While obviously eating right¹ and activity are large factors, they are far from the only factors. I have metabolism and gastric issues, for example, that make my life somewhat more "interesting" than that.




¹ though it's not always clear what exactly "eating right" means -- guidelines seem to change with the direction of the wind


true about the metabolism, the simple calories are a myth. For instance if one sleeps 8 hours, consume much more calories, if one drinks a lot of water as well, if one does some push ups, that officially consume a minimum amount of calories but in the practice they boost the metabolism for hours

@Dutch friends: AH the famous god supermarket( that means is in every corner) is selling salvia ice cream with 3,8 grams of sugar per portion. You do not find in all the supermarkets, I guess can also be ordered on line, or in AH bigger than the average
 
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What's salvia? I have several Salvias, growing in the garden.
 
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Campbell Ritchie wrote:What's salvia? I have several Salvias, growing in the garden.


OH, what a lapsus, I mean Stevia
 
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Good thing this is the MD thread; you are allowed that sort of thing here.
 
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In the immortal words of Homer Simpson

Sweeeeeeeeeet....

 
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Campbell Ritchie wrote:Good thing this is the MD thread; you are allowed that sort of thing here.


In the immortal words of Homer  Simpsons

D'OHHHH



Homer is king
 
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