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It's usually still hot labor day weekend. Now I have to rethink my routine for the US Open. What I usually wear/bring assumes it will be really hot at the peak of the day and cool later.
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:. . . the US Open. . . . .
Are you playing?
 
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We went to practice day at the US Open this year. No actual matches, but it is fun watching them practice nonetheless. It is also a fun way to spend the day, except for paying $18 for a grill cheese sandwich and a side of tater tots...

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Campbell: No, I'm nowhere near that good!

Henry: Most years I go on practice day, but I was away this year. They let you bring in more of your own food on practice day than on paid days. Although I do bring in a good amount of food on paid days.
 
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Our summer is predictably unpredictable. Sunshine with showers. They don't call Ireland the Emerald Isle for nothing, it takes a lot of rain for a land to be that green.
 
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I don't know. Watching sports is fine I guess, but I'd much rather be participating in a sport then watching from the sidelines or the bleachers.
I understand that events such as the US Open host some of the best in that sport, like many of the finals out there for other sports.
But let me ask you this, if I can:
Do you suppose that the athletes would still be participating in the event(s) if there were nearly no spectators (and if base living expenses have been paid for)?

However back to the topic of the post "where did summer go?"
For me, it was all about trying to get better at Java and the time has flown by rather quickly.
 
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Summers not over here in Texas, but since the hurricane temperatures have been more like fall. It won't last though, temperatures have kept rising. Winter doesn't start here till January.
 
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Apparently summer isn't over here in Vancouver, because they are predicting record high temperatures for the next few days.
 
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Pete Letkeman wrote:Do you suppose that the athletes would still be participating in the event(s) if there were nearly no spectators (and if base living expenses have been paid for)?


I suspect that chess players would be just as happy, maybe even happier, if there were no spectators at their championships.
 
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Pete Letkeman wrote:I don't know. Watching sports is fine I guess, but I'd much rather be participating in a sport then watching from the sidelines or the bleachers.
I understand that events such as the US Open host some of the best in that sport, like many of the finals out there for other sports.
But let me ask you this, if I can:
Do you suppose that the athletes would still be participating in the event(s) if there were nearly no spectators (and if base living expenses have been paid for)?

I do play tennis. But not anywhere near the level of professionally. I play enough to have an appreciation for what I'm seeing .

The event wouldn't exist if there were no spectators, so I'm not sure I understand the question.
 
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:The event wouldn't exist if there were no spectators, so I'm not sure I understand the question.

Some sporting events are about being better or having some friendly competition between a group of people, or playing for the fun of the sport.
Some athletes are paid millions of dollars a year/season. Some of this funding is due to people paying money to see the match up.
And some people spend money on food and drink and other at these events which pays for the athlete in some way.

Would sporting events like this happen if there were no spectators? You have stated no. But then why not, even if they get their base living expenses paid?
It is not enough to do something which you enjoy doing, especially when your living expenses are paid?

Do you need that audience of hundreds/thousands of people to play the game at the level that they are playing at? If so then why?
 
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Still very much Summer in Oregon.  We used to be more like Ireland, but now we're all brown like California!
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Pete Letkeman wrote:Do you need that audience of hundreds/thousands of people to play the game at the level that they are playing at? If so then why?

I think you do. They spend all their time training. It is their full time job.  Plus they have expenses like a coach and travel. Also, when they play, you see them feed on the excitement of the crowd. I think my point was the event wouldn't exist without spectators. If nobody is watching, how do you pick a small number of tournaments for the best of the best?

I saw Sofia Kenin play last night. She's registered as an amateur which means she can't take prize money. (This may change.) The reason she is an amateur is that she is deciding if she wants a college scholarship or to go pro. Either way, she gets money.
 
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Summer is gone. I am not too unhappy about it. In June, July I wake up from the sunlight in the morning. There are mosquito’s. There is too much noise in my neighborhood, not all people have money to go on vacation here, I cannot sleep. I am a very light sleeper. Also my eyes do not like the sun. Even now in September I am behind my computer with a cap on, because of the light. If I were alone in the office, I would close the blinds. Also when it is hot, the airco in our room blows that hard I get a pain in my neck and wear a sweater with a large collar. Now getting wet from the rain in the autumn is also not a pleasure, but frankly summer is not my favorite season.
 
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I'm at about the same latitude as Houston - Interstate 10 runs from California through Houston (flooded), New Orleans (Katrina flooded), and terminates near downtown (built up, but the neighborhood underneath floods). Low temperatures are still in the mid-70s, but the last 2 weeks have "cooled off" in that the lows are no longer near 80 and the highs are now in the low 90s.

As Randall has noticed, a hurricane can actually bring temporary temperature relief. Which is fine with me, since we had no electricity for air conditioning for 4 days after Hurricane Floyd buzzed by. On the other hand, Hurricane Irma is presently on course for Key West, and since storms tend to turn north around the time they near Florida, I'm charging my batteries. Irma is now Category 5, and if things don't improve, it may be like Andrew all over again.

Historically, one of the things that distinguished North Florida from Central/South was that Halloween was a "cold" holiday with temperatures at plunder time in the low 60s/upper 50s. But for about the last decade, it's been A/C all the way. Winter was 4 days in February last year.
 
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Our weather over the last couple of days can be accurately described as "proper shite" 
 
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Does that mean we shall get the same soon? We have had gentle continuous rain for about 15 hours, but nothing drastic. Of course, if you are 200 miles west of me, you can expect much wetter weather.
 
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Tim Holloway wrote: the lows are no longer near 80 and the highs are now in the low 90s.



For the rest of the world that does not use Fahrenheit.
70F=21C
80F=27C
90F=32C
100F=38C
 
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I generally prefer SI for measurements, but the Fahrenheit scale was designed to reflect human comfort. Whereas Celsius simply picked the state points of a random common chemical compound that just happened to fall in the same general region. Why not hydrogen instead of H2O, for example.

More to the point, it's relatively easy to tell 0.5-degree temperature differences in Celsius, whereas Fahrenheit maps human sensitivity more closely.

So without further ado, here's the approximate "Man is the Measure of All Things" metric of temperature:

120°+F You can die.
110-120°+F - Mad Dogs and Englishmen hot.
100-110°+ F - Seriously hot (Welcome to Phoenix!)
90-100°F - Hot. Believe it or not, the record high temperature for Tampa, Florida is only 99°F! Once temps hit 94-plus the ground water all boils up and it rains.
80-90°F - warm (a/k/a people in UK and Maine complain about the heat)
70-80°F "comfort" range, depending on where you draw the line for comfort and what you're doing.
60-70°F cool
50-60°F cold
40-50°F freakin' cold if there's wind.  Hypothermia danger in air.
30-40°F figuratively freezing (or literally so, if 32 or less).
20-30°F You're not in Florida anymore (optimal temperatures for snowfall)
0-10°F How did I end up in Chicago?
< 0°F If I'd turned left in Albuquerque, I wouldn't have wound up in Minnesota. Someone please thaw out my lungs.

Comparatively, 5°C takes you straight from cold to hot, and 10°C takes you from cold to frostbite. Too unsubtle for my taste.
 
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Canadian comfort scale is a bit different ...

From starecat.com
 
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Luckily, summer came back. It was perfect out yesterday for my 9.5 hours of tennis watching at the US open.
 
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I had perfect weather for watching the US Open too -- on television in a barber shop with a fan to cool the room down.
 
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Ron McLeod wrote:Canadian comfort scale is a bit different ....


Do Canadian Girl Guides put their cardigans on at −61℉?
 
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Ron McLeod wrote:Canadian comfort scale is a bit different ...
What happens with numbers greater than 50℉?
59℉ = 15℃ Ice starts to thaw in NYC Canadians start dying of dehydration???
68℉ = 20℃ London newspaper headlines say, “PhewWhatAScorcher” Canadians can't drive because all tarmac has melted???
 
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Does it really get above 50°F in Canada?

Actually, I was in Toronto one September week and it was quite pleasant.

My Scottish ancestors immigrated to upstate NY - which apparently is a lot like Scotland except maybe not as prone to the cold mist. I took a train up there many years back and they did NOT think that 45°F was cold enough to turn the heat on in the station (after all, it was still August) and no one showed up for nearly 2 hours. And since I had started my journey from Key Largo, I was definitely not dressed for that sort of nonsense, much less acclimated to it.

This morning's Irma report has it coming right up the middle of Florida like a buzz saw. I heard someone say that when a hurricane approaches Florida and the residents buy water instead of beer, you know it's trouble. 185MPH sustained winds.

And for those who find non-metric measurements annoying, I believe that's nautical miles, not statute miles.
 
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185mph is bad enough for a wind; I doubt whether I have ever experienced more than about 45mph. But 185 knots

Yes, it probably is in knots because Beaufort who developed the wind speed scale was a sailor (I believe a senior Naval officer).
 
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Typing 185 mph to kph in Google tells me that 185 mph is almost 300 kph!
 
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But have you tried 185 knots? That will give you more like 343kph.
 
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You guys make it sound like Canada is some frozen land .
Which, can be true I guess when one compares the southern tip of USA to the northern tip of Canada.
However, please note that Toronto Ontario is south of a few states including Washington, Montana, North Dakota and Minnesota at least for the most part that is.
I'm about an hour's drive north east of Detroit in Ontario, Canada so I'm even more south then the states listed.

If you were wondering, yes (where I live) we do experience four seasons a year where:
  • In the summer months days can be as warm as 35 C (~95 F).
  • In the winter months days can be a cold as -25 C (~-13 F).
  • In spring and autumn months some times the day starts around 32 F and it gets as warm as 45 F or warmer.

  • I recall the first snow fall of the season happening on Halloween, but that snow didn't stay for more then a couple of hours at most and this is not a usual thing.
     
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    9.5 hours? No way I could watch tennis that long. Now if it was the PGA us open that would be different.
     
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    Knute Snortum wrote:Typing 185 mph to kph in Google tells me that 185 mph is almost 300 kph!


    Which is very scary, either way. That's about the windspeed for an F4 tornado, and tornadoes don't hang around for hours or days. The sustained winds of a hurricane can peel the shingles off a house layer by layer. That's assuming that they don't peel other things off too.

    It also means that a heck of a storm surge is likely to overtake the Keys - which are about 2 inches (5cm) above sea level at the best of times. As bad as it gets in the Carribbean, many of those islands are mountains. The Keys and even a lot of mainland Florida below the Everglades - are nothing but coral reef that grew on top of a shallow section of continental shelf.

    And in the mean time, media idiots are proclaiming that there's nothing to worry about, it's just a Deep State/liberal plot to make the fake Global Warming look real, so just sit back and relax.

    My one consolation is that I'm in as close to a "hurricane proof" part of the state as you can get. Weather patterns and geography tend to either force storms away or shave down their impact here. Doesn't mean that there won't be plenty of downed trees and washed-out roads, but Andrew mowed parts of S. Florida flat. I saw cow pastures with pine groves that looked like someone had stuck an egg beater in the middle of them even up towards Palm Beach. 5 years later.



    Here's another reason why I prefer Fahrenheit, BTW. Citrus can handle freezing temperatures (0°C) with little damage (for the most part). But drop that to 28°F and you start seeing irreparable damage. I'm in the second-coldest climate zone in Florida, where 0°C historically happens about 30 times/year (although recently, more like about 4 times/year). So it's about a 4 degree "safety" measure in Fahrenheit, but only 2.2 degrees in Celsius and even when it does get below freezing, temperatures in the 20's are fairly rare around here. So it's a lot easier to determine whether to panic on  Fahrenheit scale. I don't have a grove, so industrial protection isn't an option, and citrus tends to have wicked thorns, so you don't want to wrap up trees if you can avoid it.
     
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    Randall Twede wrote:9.5 hours? No way I could watch tennis that long. Now if it was the PGA us open that would be different.

    Yup. Four good matches.
     
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    I'll tell y'all what. This was the first real hurricane I've been through. Austin is about 200 miles from the coast, so i was fairly safe,but it rained for over 2 days. The wind was furious.
     
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