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I have not been able to find an answer to this question so I thought someone here might have an idea.

I have just recently obtained the associate certification and would like to know more or less when Oracle will update the current SE8 test to include the new features in SE9.  Does anyone know?  How long after SE8 release did Oracle take until they updated the SE7 test to SE8?
 
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Welcome to CodeRanch Jason.

Jeanne wrote this back in  August 2017:

Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Some dates for Java 8:
March 18, 2014 - Java8 released
August 31, 2014 - OCA 8 beta opens
April 28, 2015 - OCP 8 beta opens


https://coderanch.com/t/683060#3205159

If Java 9 happens with about the same timeline then you may have to wait a half a year or more after Java 9 is released before you try to become Java 9 certified.
 
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Thanks for your help Pete.

I was concerned that I was going to buy study materials now for SE8 but then have to buy them again for SE9 in a few months.  Looks like I should have plenty of time to pass OCP8 before they update!
 
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You are welcome Jason.

Even with Java 9 just around about to be out Java 8 will still be here for a few more years.

I'm pretty sure that Oracle and Pearson Vueare still offering Java 6 testing as noted here:
Just Google for 1Z0-850 pearson vue and it should be one of the first results.

And Java 6 was last updated 2012 according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_version_history
 
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Before you purchase any material you may want to check out
https://coderanch.com/wiki/659976/Ocpjp-Wall-Fame
To see what others have used and how they prepared.

This could save you time, money and frustration.
 
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That's a great resource.  Personally, I only used the OCA8 Study Guide by Jeanne Boyarsky and Scott Selikoff and was planning on using their OCP8 study guide.  I found the book much more challenging than the test. 

I did not know about enthuware but it looks helpful!  I will have to try it out.
 
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Enthuware is only about $10 USD (for OCA) and well worth it, in my own opinion. 
However only take an Enthuware mock exam after you have studied and don't take the same exam more then once.
Many people have stated the the Enthuware questions are more difficult then the real test questions and Enthuware has licensed it questions to other products as found here
http://www.pearsonitcertification.com
with this product Oracle Certified Associate Java SE 8 Programmer I 1Z0-808 by Enthuware uCertify Course and Labs Student Access Card
 
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any updates on the exam release dates for Java 9 ?
 
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No, no updates yet on the test release date.
In the meantime, how is your learning coming along for Java 9? Are you familiar with most of the ins and outs of "jigsaw"?
When the exam happens there will most likely be questions on jigsaw as that was a big part of the release.
Do you currently have and Java 8 certifications?
I suspect that having passed/leaned the materials for the Java 8 exams is a good place to start with your Java 9 learning.
I would suggest that you learn everything for the OCP Java 8 exam and all about Jigsaw while you wait.
Oracle recently started that they plan to charge the time between the releases of Java to every six months.
No one knows what impact this will have on certification.
As far as I know, noone has come forward and stared that they are working on a study guide for Java 9. There are still no guidelines of what could be on any Java 9 exams.
 
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. . . and welcome to the Ranch Gayashan Bombuwala
 
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Pete Letkeman wrote:No, no updates yet on the test release date.
In the meantime, how is your learning coming along for Java 9? Are you familiar with most of the ins and outs of "jigsaw"?
When the exam happens there will most likely be questions on jigsaw as that was a big part of the release.
Do you currently have and Java 8 certifications?
I suspect that having passed/leaned the materials for the Java 8 exams is a good place to start with your Java 9 learning.
I would suggest that you learn everything for the OCP Java 8 exam and all about Jigsaw while you wait.
Oracle recently started that they plan to charge the time between the releases of Java to every six months.
No one knows what impact this will have on certification.
As far as I know, noone has come forward and stared that they are working on a study guide for Java 9. There are still no guidelines of what could be on any Java 9 exams.



Thank you.
I don't have any prior certifications with Java.
Jus wanted to know whether I should study and do the exam for Java SE 8 or wait until the exam for Java SE 9 is released.
 
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Campbell Ritchie wrote:. . . and welcome to the Ranch Gayashan Bombuwala



Thank you
 
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Sorry Gayashan, now that I read my previous posting I think it seems a little harsh.

Gayashan Bombuwala wrote:Jus wanted to know whether I should study and do the exam for Java SE 8 or wait until the exam for Java SE 9 is released.


Yes, your best bet currently is probably Java 8 certifications.
In the past Oracle has provided a way to go from Java 7 OCP directly to Java 8 OCP, by passing the Java 8 OCA requirement.
However you could not and can not go directly from Java 7 OCA to Java 8 OCP.

As I stated earlier, a big part of Java 9's release has been "jigsaw" which, in theory, allows you to create a smaller Java footprint when deploying your program.
With jigsaw you can only include which Java modules that you need. I'm pretty sure that there are many articles and/or books regarding this aspect of Java 9 alone.

The current speculation is that there may be something in the way of a Java 9 exam sometime before the end of 2018 or the first half of 2019.
Given the new rapid release schedule of Java, Java 10 could be could be out by then.
 
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Pete Letkeman wrote:Sorry Gayashan, now that I read my previous posting I think it seems a little harsh.

Gayashan Bombuwala wrote:Jus wanted to know whether I should study and do the exam for Java SE 8 or wait until the exam for Java SE 9 is released.


Yes, your best bet currently is probably Java 8 certifications.
In the past Oracle has provided a way to go from Java 7 OCP directly to Java 8 OCP, by passing the Java 8 OCA requirement.
However you could not and can not go directly from Java 7 OCA to Java 8 OCP.

As I stated earlier, a big part of Java 9's release has been "jigsaw" which, in theory, allows you to create a smaller Java footprint when deploying your program.
With jigsaw you can only include which Java modules that you need. I'm pretty sure that there are many articles and/or books regarding this aspect of Java 9 alone.

The current speculation is that there may be something in the way of a Java 9 exam sometime before the end of 2018 or the first half of 2019.
Given the new rapid release schedule of Java, Java 10 could be could be out by then.



Ok then I think, I will go with Java 8 OCA exam first.
Thank you very much for the helpful explanation.
 
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Pete Letkeman wrote:The current speculation is that there may be something in the way of a Java 9 exam sometime before the end of 2018 or the first half of 2019.
Given the new rapid release schedule of Java, Java 10 could be could be out by then.


What have you seen that suggests that? I agree that the timing seems likely of late 2018 or early 2019. But that would make it a Java 11 exam, not a Java 9 exam.

My understanding is that there will not be a Java 9 exam at all.

In any case, the original poster should definitely take the Java 8 exam. Nobody is working on a study guide because Oracle isn't anywhere near ready. So it'll be a while. Scott and I are monitoring this closely and have talked with our publisher. We want to upgrade our book for the "next version of the exam." But it is too early to do anything with it now.
 
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