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Lilou Laure
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After OCA, I would like to know, is OCP really tuff , as in chances of clearing it are lesser than in OCA ?

I have read a couple of threads in which it says that OCP is quite tough !

I am thinking should I do it do it or not !  

I need some advise on how to proceed with OCP , and if anything different should be followed compared to the OCA preparations ?
 
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Have you looked at the OCP Wall of Fame (https://coderanch.com/wiki/659976/Ocpjp-Wall-Fame) ?
You can see what others have used and how they prepared which may save you time, money and frustration.

From what I understand there is a significant more material that is covered with this test including streams, collections, inner classes and more.

Regarding how easy or how hard it is? That does depend on your experience programming in Java. Some people have spent years programming in Java and they may find the exam was not too hard.

As to if you should do it or not? That depends on what you goals are.
If you are doing to advance your career then you know that some companies does not care at all about certifications.
In fact, if you have many certifications it could look like you have no experience and you are just 'book' smart.

With OCA done, you may want to branch off into something like Hadoop or maybe something with regards to SAP Hana development.
Both of which your Java knowledge will be an asset and both of which there are certifications for.

The answer for me personally? Well I'm going to take the OCA test soon and after that I'm going to spend some time getting into Android development.
You may not know this, but Google does offer Android certification and it cost $150 USD to take that exam. I figure that this will be a nice break for me.

Edit: Grammar fixed
 
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Lilou,
It's not that you are more likely to fail! It's that you need to spend more time studying for the OCP. That's why we warn it is hard. So you allow enough time and do pass when you take it!
 
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@Jeanne ,  but  in the OCP there are 85 questions to be completed in 2.5 hours as compared to the OCA.

On the OCA itself, I would finish just on time and literally at the very last second, on mock exams and the real exam.

So how to deal with that ? Since the number of questions are increased, will some questions be smaller and easier to answer , I mean less time consuming .
 
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No, most of the questions are not going to be smaller/easier. As you gain more experience, you'll get faster at answering them.

I recommend taking your study guide and answering the end of chapter questions many times. This helps you see patterns faster.
 
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thanks jeanne  and pete 
 
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Lilou Laure wrote:@Jeanne ,  but  in the OCP there are 85 questions to be completed in 2.5 hours


This was the case, in the past (and to be specific, I think there are 90 questions in overall).

Right now, there are only 65 questions for 2.5 hours.
 
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Thodoris Bais wrote:Right now, there are only 65 questions for 2.5 hours.

Just curious, what is your source for this?
This does sound a much better then when Lilou was referring to.
I think that Lilou is referring to the 1Z0-809: Java SE 8 Programmer II exam.
 
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Pete Letkeman wrote:
Thodoris Bais wrote:Right now, there are only 65 questions for 2.5 hours.

Just curious, what is your source for this?
This does sound a much better then when Lilou was referring to.
I think that Lilou is referring to the 1Z0-809: Java SE 8 Programmer II exam.


Official page of Oracle is my source, however, I am only referring to OCPJP7 :-).
 
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Interesting...oh well I'm in it for the Java 8 exams. I would much rather have 65 questions instead of 85 questions.
However for me this is still more then seven months away and who knows maybe by the time I'm brave enough Java 9 exams could be out.
 
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Yeah maaaan, I know the drill.
I've cleared OCAJP more than 2 years ago, but still, you are pre-2017-end, and still struggling with the OCPJP.

If you don't push it every time, it's never gonna happen.
 
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Me, I've have yet to take the OCA 1Z0-808 exam, but soon.

Recently the OP, Lilou Laure, took that exam, passed and now it looks like they are thinking about the OCP exam.
 
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