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Should I continue to review chapter 1 after finally getting 70%?

 
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I've been working for a while trying to grasp the content in the OCAJP 8 study guide by Boyarsky....FINALLY i found a way to grasp the material but only got 70%.
Should I keep moving....or should I continue to review Chapter 1 until i get at least 80%. This 70% is after routinely scoring around 40%. But This time around
I found myself confidently thinking through the problems. I would appreciate any feed back.
 
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Welcome to CodeRanch Jerôme.

Jerôme Dubuqe wrote:Should I keep moving....or should I continue to review Chapter 1 until i get at least 80%.


This is not an easy question to answer. You could have gotten your mark due to unintentionally memorizing the answers to the questions.
I suggest that you move to the next chapter. However this time do not do the end of chapter test until you have read that chapter fully at least two times if not more.

What I did a few months ago was:
  • Read the whole book three times, but I did not do the practice test at all.
  • On the fourth time reading the chapter of the book I did the chapter test for that chapter as I read it.
  • Read the whole book once more, this time I read the chapters in different order, and I did not do the chapter tests at all.
  • I only did the chapter tests, one right after the other in any order. That's a total of 145 questions.

  • I think that:
  • reading the book start to finish without doing the chapter tests gets you at least somewhat familiar with the subject matter, writing style and teaching style.
  • reading the chapters of the book out of order forces your brain to absorb the content in a slightly different way and keeps the material fresh and not boring.

  • You should not only rely on learning what you need to know from using the book. I'm pretty sure after chapter six and all of the answers there are some tips on how to learn the material and how to prepare for the exam.
    You should be writing many programs, files can be anywhere from 10 lines to 100 lines. This helps the concept sink in.

    If you register that book online then you can access the chapter tests online, which makes keeping track of that test a bit easier.
    Also if you registered the book online then you get access to some exam like questions. Do not attempt these questions until you have studied the content.

    Finally:
    I highly recommend that after you are confident with that you know the subject matter that you spend the money and get Enthuware for the OCA 1Z0-808 exam. This only cost about $10 USD.
    Each Enthuware test should only be done once and it will tell you where your trouble areas are.
    You should wait at least one after you do an Enthuware test to learn what you have missed and to give yourself a break.

    Of course everything listed in this post is just a base guide line that I have used thus far.
    I cannot promise you any results as I've yet to write the OCA 1Z0-808 test and we both have different backgrounds and learn things differently.

    I did also purchase another book as well which I found helpful as not every book covers the same material and the material that they cover is not covered the same way.
    One book may talk a lot about LocalTime and the other book may only mention it briefly.  
    However each book will try to cover 110% of the material which you could be asked about on the exam.
     
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    Oh, and when writing small practice programs do you use a full feature IDE like Eclipse or IntelliJ. Use something like Notepad++ instead.
    This will help you stay focused on learning Java and not learn the IDE and on during the test you will not have any IDE or even a compiler to access.
     
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    Pete Letkeman wrote:Oh, and when writing small practice programs do you use a full feature IDE like Eclipse or IntelliJ. Use something like Notepad++ instead.
    This will help you stay focused on learning Java and not learn the IDE and on during the test you will not have any IDE or even a compiler to access.



    Sorry  for the delayed response. I do try to use notepad and the command line as much as possible,and it is helping me. I guess I try to get ahead of myself by trying to work on projects that exceed my knowledgebase. Im gonna stick to what I know for now regardless of how much im itching to make Swing GUI's ! LOL
     
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    Aquil Hall wrote:Sorry  for the delayed response.


    No need for apologies.

    Perhaps I should apologize. Some how I quoted someone named "Jerôme Dubuqe" and that does not appear to be your name.
    I'm not too sure where that person's name came from. Sorry about that.

    Aquil Hall wrote:Im gonna stick to what I know for now regardless of how much im itching to make Swing GUI's ! LOL


    That is a great idea. There is a lot that one can do even without exploring GUI. Learning GUI related material at this point may not be the best use of your time.
    If you are thinking about taking the certification exam then you don't need to worry about GUI related material, at least not for the OCA 1Z0-808 exam.

    One thing that I have found which helps me is answering questions on this site. Sometimes I get it wrong, other times I get it correct. Either way it helps me out.
    When answering questions I'm forced to think of how things work in a way and I usually then find ways to explain my answer, thus reinforcing the answer.
    When I'm wrong someone usually corrects me, in a friendly way, and I try to learn from what as well.
     
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    Pete Letkeman wrote:

    Aquil Hall wrote:Sorry  for the delayed response.


    No need for apologies.

    Perhaps I should apologize. Some how I quoted someone named "Jerôme Dubuqe" and that does not appear to be your name.
    I'm not too sure where that person's name came from. Sorry about that.

    Aquil Hall wrote:Im gonna stick to what I know for now regardless of how much im itching to make Swing GUI's ! LOL


    That is a great idea. There is a lot that one can do even without exploring GUI. Learning GUI related material at this point may not be the best use of your time.
    If you are thinking about taking the certification exam then you don't need to worry about GUI related material, at least not for the OCA 1Z0-808 exam.

    One thing that I have found which helps me is answering questions on this site. Sometimes I get it wrong, other times I get it correct. Either way it helps me out.
    When answering questions I'm forced to think of how things work in a way and I usually then find ways to explain my answer, thus reinforcing the answer.
    When I'm wrong someone usually corrects me, in a friendly way, and I try to learn from what as well.



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