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Hello,

I am willing to get OCA 8 Certification.I don't have much experience with Java but I have experience in other languages, mostly self-taught, I've also worked 6 months with C# which seems a bit similar.I am thinking to follow a Udemy course "Complete Java Masterclass" but I am not sure if this course follows the spirit of OCA exams.Also, my university collaborates with Oracle University and the OOP Course prepares students for this exam (this is the first semester this will happen though) and I'm planning to attend.Do you think I have chances to be ready in around 5 months?Are there any other suggestions for quick preparation?Thanks in advance.
 
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Phil,

I think you can do it in 5 months, if you are familiar with the C# and OOP philosophy.  It will take a good amount of work and a lot of coding.  I also did the Udemy Java MasterClass and used OCA Book by Boyarski and Selikoff.  Of course, I have reviewed countless articles on specific subjects.  Also, the Enthuware exam prep questions are tough, probably tougher than most questions on the exam.  As long as you can score 70 or above on those Enthuware tests and fully understand all of their explanations, you should be fine.  Enthuware does a good job of mixing all kinds of terminology, coding examples, and rules questions to ensure you understand what you are talking about.  Hope my experience helps out.  Bonne chance!
 
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Welcome to CodeRanch Phil.

In regards to five months of prep for the exam, well it all depends on the person. For some people this is enough time, for others this is not.
Even a seasoned developer can have troubles with exams. Not due to lack of knowledge, but do to exam format and exam wording/enviroment.

I do recommend a study guide (maybe two) plus Enthuware. However only start using Enthuware after you have some done some studying.
To start off you may want to use the free question limited trail of Enthuware to so see where your knowledge base is regarding Java.
If you do well (over 80) on the Enthuware trial then I'd suggest that you go full version of Enthuware and do the first test, the Foundation Test, and go from there.
Enthuware tests are designed to be taken once and at the end of the test you can see what areas you need to learn better before taking the exam.
Plus Enthuware test use exam like wording for questions and answers giving you some familiarity with how the exam is done.

You may want to take a look the OCA Wall Of Fame https://coderanch.com/wiki/659980/Ocajp-Wall-Fame to see the stories of people who have past the exam.
Many people have not only listed the resources that they used, but explained how they've prepared for the exam. This you could end up saving time, money and frustration.
 
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Thanks for the replies!I am planning to get enthuware of course and probably a book for preparation.I saw some sample questions at blogs.oracle.com and they seem really easy, I was wondering if that's how the test is.
 
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Yes, the few sample questions provided by Oracle are valid questions which you may see a variant of on the exam.
However, be careful, these are only a very limited number of questions, so they only cover a very limited amount of what could be on the exam.
While these questions may be easy, there are many more questions of varying difficulty on the exam, plus during the exam you have to worry about time constraints.
 
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I understand that the exam will be more difficult.How many questions do you have to answer?
 
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Preparation time for Java Certification vary from person to person and it requires lot of dedication & hard-work.

Both the exam each takes around 2 months of time if you have little background on Java already. It also depends on how you are preparing for the exam. OCPJP is more tougher than OCAJP Exam. OCAJP can be cleared with out much in depth knowledge on Java programming but OCPJP covers lot of topics that requires some kind of practice.
 
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Jack Ramon,

While some of the post is on topic, the very first sentence isn't. It is even misleading, because it is referring to an absolutely different course/training - not clear to be honest what that is at all.
On a more important note, to post just to advertise your stuff is considered a very poor practice across the forums. Any forums probably.

Most of the forums have advertising sections where you can advertise your site. So whoever might be interested can go and have a look, but really isn't needed to push this in a forced way to community users.

Jack Ramon wrote:Both the exam each takes around 2 months of time if you have little background on Java already.


Disagree with that statement. Without going to details how much you could expect to score after these 2 months, I don't think 2 months are enough for OCP to prepare.

Jack Ramon wrote:OCAJP can be cleared with out much in depth knowledge


Again. That some kind of implying that you can grab a person who did some programming in school and send him to sit an exam, so he could easily score at least minimum passing score. That's absolutely not true! OCA is hard enough even for well experienced people. It requires deep knowledge and understanding of Java foundation.
 
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Phil Niksen wrote:How many questions do you have to answer?


According to the exam web site https://education.oracle.com/pls/web_prod-plq-dad/db_pages.getpage?page_id=5001&get_params=p_exam_id:1Z0-808,
there are 70 questions and you need to get 65% or better. As a result each question is worth about 1.43%, even the questions that take a few minutes to answer.
With that in mind, you need to get 46 out of 70 questions correct to earn your certificate.
The certificate does not not show your final mark, it only shows that you have obtained it and your mark will not be advertised.

I do caution you, do not go for only a passing grade. If you only try for the 65% then after you go over your allotted wrong answers you have no safety net.
On the other hand, if you try for 100% and you go over your allotted wrong answers then you can still get the certificate.
I'm not too sure if many (any?) people have gotten 100% on this exam, however some people have gotten better then 85%.

If you have any troubles with the content during your exam preparations post to this site.
There are many people on this site who are very well versed in Java who are more then happy to not only explain the questions but also the answers.
Enthuware product support people visit this site and help out by answering Java questions and Enthuware questions, and they have been known to join in a discussion or two on occasion.
Not only that, Jeanne Boyarsky (author) frequents this site, joining in discussions and answering questions.
 
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Thanks for the useful information.
 
It is sorta covered in the JavaRanch Style Guide.
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