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I enjoyed this website. It's a service where you can pay to forward your telemarketers to interact with a robot. Listening to samples is free and they post the time points of funny ones.

Which one entertains you on a fun Friday?

Also, I wonder what will happen as AI improves. There are some things the robot could listen for to answer "more humanlike" and drag it on even longer!
 
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I am also thinking about how you would set up such a thing for recruiters calling developers for a job. And then which characteristic developers we should use.. Hmmm.
 
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Wouldn't it be great if this service ended up being the answer to stopping those bloody annoying telemarketing calls altogether!?!?!

Very cool Jeanne!
 
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GDPR comes in next week; that will make it illegal for telemarketers to have people's phone numbers without permission. Wonder what difference that will make.
 
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The government here in Canada enacted legislation a few years ago that sounds similar to GDPR (in theory, there is a "no-call registry" list that telemarketers must abide by, and anyone registered on that list the telemarketer cannot call). It did cut down on the number of calls after it became law. If you do get a call from a telemarketer you can tell them that you are on the no-call list, and they are not to call you again (although in reality you could still conceivably get a call from them again). Regardless, occasionally we still get that ringing of the phone round about dinner time, and you know it's likely a telemarketer.
 
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We use caller display; if we recognise the number we answer it. If not, telemarketers can be recognised by their hanging up as soon as the answering machine cuts in. That has got rid of about 99% of them.
 
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I am somewhat embarrassed to admit we do not have caller display. But, I know if I pick up the phone and I initially get nothing but air on the other end I am 99.9% certain it is a telemarketer and I hang up.
 
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Campbell Ritchie wrote:Wonder what difference that will make.


None.

I have bought shorts the other day, and the guy asked me an email so could send a receipt as apparently they don't or they don't want to, but they don't give print receipts by default.
I refused and said I don't need spam, he said no no no, just for receipt - I thought ok, never mind, weren't sure if the shorts would fit well, so thought I might need receipt after all in case for refund.

Already got 2-3 emails from them with advertisements.
 
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The thing that bothers me the most, is that all those government's do not call lists, are completely toothless. They can't or won't do anything anymore. This sounded great in the past, but nothing seems to be happening now. And because of this, it isn't worth reporting telemarketers anymore.

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Liutauras Vilda wrote:Already got 2-3 emails from them with advertisements.



I can relate Liutauras - it seems more and more nowadays I get asked if I want an email copy of the receipt. Most often I throw caution to the wind and say yes, and next thing I know I am getting email ads about sales they are having.

Henry Wong wrote:The thing that bothers me the most, is that all those government's do not call lists, are completely toothless.



I admitted that since they enacted the legislation in Canada it has cut down on the number of calls, but you're right Henry. Often times governments enact these laws as "lip service", just to appease taxpayers (especially if it's close to election time).
 
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Randy Maddocks wrote:. . . I pick up the phone and I initially get nothing but air on the other end I am 99.9% certain it is a telemarketer and I hang up.

That is a really helpful habit telemarketers have. They have multiple phones in front of them, so it takes a little while to pick up a phone which has been answered at the other end. It is kind to hang up; you are not going to say anything rude to them, and the telephone company will get their bill paid. And think how much unnecessary work you are saving the poor chaps who have to work for telemarketers.

Even if the phone bill payment can be worked out from Double.longBitsToDouble(1L)
 
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I admitted that since they enacted the legislation in Canada it has cut down on the number of calls, but you're right Henry. Often times governments enact these laws as "lip service", just to appease taxpayers (especially if it's close to election time).



This worked very well in the US too.... well ... for a few years anyway. What will happen, if the same thing happens in Canada as in the US, the telemarketers will move operations outside of jurisdiction, setup some sort of VOIP environment, perhaps setup some sort of spoofing of numbers, and your number of telemarketing calls will go back up.

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Campbell Ritchie wrote:That is a really helpful habit telemarketers have. They have multiple phones in front of them, so it takes a little while to pick up a phone which has been answered at the other end. It is kind to hang up; you are not going to say anything rude to them, and the telephone company will get their bill paid. And think how much unnecessary work you are saving the poor chaps who have to work for telemarketers.



Actually, I think it is due to the autodialer at work. The autodialer device has to dial millions of numbers per day, and to connect the persons that pick up to the telemarketing team. It doesn't actually connect the person, until it confirms that it is a person. Otherwise, the telemarketing team will be wasting time talking to answering machines.

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We've had a "do not call" list in the United States for a long time. There's two problems:
  • various groups are exempted such as political calls and surveys
  • scammers aren't running an illegal operation. even if Macy's  is willing to stop calling you, the people trying to steal your credit card number by saying you owe the Internal Revenue Service $ will not
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:...the people trying to steal your credit card number by saying you owe the Internal Revenue Service $ will not



    Unfortunately that is all too true. Some "people" (and I am being generous calling them people) have nothing better to do than to scam others. I especially do not like it when seniors are taken advantage of because they are not familiar with how these scammers work, and in many cases are frightened (or too trusting) into giving out their personal information.

    Campbell Ritchie wrote: It is kind to hang up; you are not going to say anything rude to them, and the telephone company will get their bill paid



    That got me thinking, sometimes if I do end up speaking to a telemarketer I generally give them a chance to run through their sales pitch. I figure the person on the other end of the phone is trying to earn a living, and likely is sworn and yelled at multiple times a day which would wear anyone down. If they are honest and trying to sell a legitimate service or product I don't mind listening. But if it gets into the realm of high pressure sales tactic and such, or they become belligerent, I have no patience for that.
     
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    Randy Maddocks wrote:. . . sworn and yelled at multiple times a day . . . .

    Agree; it is bad enough having to sit at a bank of telephones without getting an earful too.
     
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    Randy Maddocks wrote:Unfortunately that is all too true. Some "people" (and I am being generous calling them people) have nothing better to do than to scam others. I especially do not like it when seniors are taken advantage of because they are not familiar with how these scammers work, and in many cases are frightened (or too trusting) into giving out their personal information.


    Agreed. My mother and I practice what she should say for common ones. In particular, do not give out your social security number or credit card number if you did not initiate the call. One time her local bank called asking for her social. They really did. I know because she called back the branch herself and told them off for doing that. But she didn't give it; I'm proud of her.

    We also covered the "your child needs money; it is an emergency". First of all, I wouldn't call her in that case; I'd ask a local friend to loan me the money until I could get to the bank. Second, in an emergency, you need money for a thing. Not in the abstract. So the request should be, "can you call this airline/whatever and pay $x on my account." Finally, I covered multiple channel verification. If there was a call like that, there should also be an email form my two factor enabled account with the same message.

    Randy Maddocks wrote: That got me thinking, sometimes if I do end up speaking to a telemarketer I generally give them a chance to run through their sales pitch. I figure the person on the other end of the phone is trying to earn a living, and likely is sworn and yelled at multiple times a day which would wear anyone down. If they are honest and trying to sell a legitimate service or product I don't mind listening. But if it gets into the realm of high pressure sales tactic and such, or they become belligerent, I have no patience for that.


    That's nice of you. I'm from the "it goes with the territory camp". But it isn't a human being frequently anymore so the yelling doesn't help much.
     
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:My mother and I practice what she should say for common ones.



    First of all, very good of you to go over this kind of thing with your mother. The fact that she didn't give her social security number out is encouraging, especially when you consider what could happen had she given it out. Also, for going into specifics with her, like telling her you would never call her to ask for money, you'd go to a friend first. Sometimes we take for granted that people just know how to distinguish between the real deal as opposed to someone who is scamming them into handing over money because they are in an "emergency situation". Sharing that with your mother shows you care. What bothers me most is how sophisticated some of these scammers can be, playing on people's sense of humanity.

    Campbell Ritchie wrote: ...it is bad enough having to sit at a bank of telephones without getting an earful too.



    Which, in and of itself, can be as demotivating as anything. I have had jobs in past life where I had to do cold calling (door to door nonetheless), and it left a very bad taste in my mouth.
     
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    Randy Maddocks wrote:like telling her you would never call her to ask for money, you'd go to a friend first.  


    It's practical. My mother doesn't live near me. Friends are much closer. So a friend could actually show up in said emergency. Or I could give a friend a key to get into my apartment to get a second credit card or whatever. Proximity matters.
     
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    Randy Maddocks wrote:. . . The fact that she didn't give her social security number out is encouraging . . . .

    Unless yoiu can train somebody to reel off a false number and still sound confident.
     
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