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I read an article about digital license plates. The highlights

  • instead of a sticker to confirm you are paid/current, the license plate will turn off
  • the license plate can display ads instead of the number when parked (this seems bad)
  • the license plate uses GPS to determine which ads to show (also seems bad)


  • Oh and it is expensive.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:instead of a sticker to confirm you are paid/current, the license plate will turn off



    Those stickers are obsolete anyway. Anybody who needs to know whether the licence plate has expired will have a computer which can connect to the licence-plate database and find that out. At least one jurisdiction (Manitoba) has already stopped using them.
     
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:. . . Oh and it is expensive. . . .

    In which case will anybody use it? It will probably make money for the manufacturers whilst parked via the adverts, which the driver cannot get a share of. The only use I can see for it is making it harder to give parking tickets because it will be illegible whilst parked incorrectly.

    We still have tax stickers in cars in UK, but none of them reads an expiry date more recent than 2015, which is when they were officially abolished, but drivers were permitted to retain expired stickers for sentimental reasons. Most of them are seen on old cars regarded as classics.
     
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    Oh, that's great. So it solves a problem that's already been solved. (I haven't owned a car in a decade; I'm behind the times.)

    The other thing that jumps out at me is: which part of the car is likely to get damaged. There's plenty of license plates that have been tapped/bent by people trying to park. In fact, I've seen a number of rubber bumper protectors because it is frequent. So rather than a strong piece of metal, put something electronic there?
     
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:. . . likely to get damaged. . . .

    A very brittle flat screen may prevent theft, if the thieves realise they can't steal a number plate and actually have it work.
     
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    On the surface, this seems to be a bit flawed for the following reasons:
    - Power:
     - Yes they say that the image only uses power when it changes like some ebook devices, but this is going to stop working sooner or later.
     - Where does it get the power from? I think that the best option would be solar power, still this can fail.
    - Where does it get the data for the feed from?
    - What if someone hijacks the data for the feed?
     - Nearly every data stream/source is hacked sooner or later unless you keep the software/operating system up to date with all of the patches.
    - It may turn off if not paid. Some people may choose to do this so that the vehicle can not be tracked for either illegal or non legal reasons.
    - Where does this GPS data get stored and who owns it?
     - This data could show insurance companies your bad/good driving habits like speeding and then your rates could change.
       Nearly everyone goes five or more miles faster then the posted speed limit on most roads.
     
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:the license plate can display ads instead of the number when parked (this seems bad)



    I have this vision of a world in the future that would be a nightmare for me. At the moment you step out of your home, everywhere on anything there are flickering distracting adds.. Adds are getting more annoying with technical advances. E.g. the dancing letters on the advertisement banners besides football fields. Now I see moving content displays with advertisements in the train station where I used to see a just a poster with an add. For me that is living in hell.

     
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:the license plate can display ads instead of the number when parked (this seems bad)


    Interesting.

    About 20 years ago on Internet you'd have barely find any ad, now there are tons - so we learned to live with them.
    About 20 years ago there were no smart phones, so there were no adds in them, now most of the apps in nowadays phones contain ads - so we learned to live with them.
    About 20 years ago there were no ads at bus stops. Now almost in each stop there are. At least in big cities. - so we learned to live with them.
    ... there are more

    I don't see anything significantly different in yet another ad location. We'd learn to live with that too.

    This Saturday I'll be travelling to my friend's (classmate from old days) house to visit his family. He lives in the middle of forest, in farmstead, few miles around no other people. Mostly trees around and few lakes. Animals too though.

    Since I remember him, he always used to be much closer to nature than most of us friends.

    Jan, you need some similar environment too, so you wouldn't get that overtired perhaps. To be honest, when I visit him, I feel very good there too.
     
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    Liutauras Vilda wrote:This Saturday I'll be travelling to my friend's (classmate from old days) house to visit his family. He lives in the middle of forest, (...)


    Whaaat???

    Are you telling me he does not take a huge spoonful of Cinnamon, he doesn't jump out of his car to run beside it, or is tattood from toes to ears?? Aren't you afraid you're in for a very boring weekend?    
     
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    As I said earlier, if you can't read the number you can't give out tickets for incorrect parking. Maybe that would curb the enthusiasm of parking companies which make loan sharks look positively lenient in comparison. Or parking companies would have remote controls to turn the ads off  
     
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    How about readability in full sunlight? The fines in Holland for not having a clear number plate are gigantic. And would it not be simple to 'change' your number, much easier than having to change your current number plates?
     
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    Piet Souris wrote:Are you telling me he does not take a huge spoonful of Cinnamon, he doesn't jump out of his car to run beside it, or is tattood from toes to ears??


    No, he's very normal. Probably more normal than most of the city boys, as we say - not broken yet

    Piet Souris wrote:Aren't you afraid you're in for a very boring weekend?


    Absolutely opposite. Usually when we meet we go for fishing, barbecue till late night, chats by the bonfire, baking potatoes in it and eating with salt afterwards, if another classmate is with us, then we even have a guitar player. That is something difficult to experience anywhere near the city. But not many people could live such life permanently, except just on rare occasions. There are constant works need to be done on daily bases in exchange of minimum ads around
     
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    Indeed, that does not sound boring at all. Enjoy!
     
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    Liutauras it is not one particular place, it is one drop, and one drop more, until you just have too many interrupts, too much disturbances, interference things. The latest, I saw an add played in the toilet, on the urinal! I am extremely sensitive to this, but I can imagine it is also not that healthy for ‘normal’ people. Our brains need a rest, an 'input stop' sometimes.
     
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    Jan de Boer wrote:. . . . I saw an add played in the toilet . . . not that healthy . . . .

    If they looked anything like this, they would put anybody off.
     
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    Campbell Ritchie wrote:

    Jan de Boer wrote:. . . . I saw an add played in the toilet . . . not that healthy . . . .

    If they looked anything like this, they would put anybody off.



    I saw something like that several years ago... it was in that giant mall which is near Chester. I just googled it, its name is "Cheshire Oaks Designer Outlet". But I didn't photograph the women who were impressed by me because there were other people using the urinals (perhaps more impressively than me) and I didn't think that photographing the area would be well received.
     
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    Paul Clapham wrote:. . . . I didn't think that photographing the area would be well received.

    It puts a slightly different meaning on the wor‍d “Outlet”, anyway.
     
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    Campbell Ritchie wrote:

    Jan de Boer wrote:. . . . I saw an add played in the toilet . . . not that healthy . . . .

    If they looked anything like this, they would put anybody off.



    These are static posters. Imagine them being moving and make sounds, making comments.
     
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    Jan de Boer wrote:. . . . These are static posters. Imagine them being moving . . . .

    . . . and there being a capacitative coating over the “porcelain” which turns them on whenever an electrically conductive fluid flows over their surface?

    There aren't words bad enough to describe that scenario.
     
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    Liutauras Vilda wrote:

    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:the license plate can display ads instead of the number when parked (this seems bad)


    Interesting.

    About 20 years ago on Internet you'd have barely find any ad, now there are tons - so we learned to live with them.
    About 20 years ago there were no smart phones, so there were no adds in them, now most of the apps in nowadays phones contain ads - so we learned to live with them.
    About 20 years ago there were no ads at bus stops. Now almost in each stop there are. At least in big cities. - so we learned to live with them.
    ... there are more

    I don't see anything significantly different in yet another ad location. We'd learn to live with that too.


    At least here in NYC, the bus stop ads came at the same time as bus shelters. So you got the ads in exchange for not getting wet. Fair trade!
     
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    Campbell Ritchie wrote:

    Jan de Boer wrote:. . . . These are static posters. Imagine them being moving . . . .

    . . . and there being a capacitative coating over the “porcelain” which turns them on whenever an electrically conductive fluid flows over their surface?



    And then giving you advice to buy certain products!
     
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    They look really cool.  I doubt they will ever be required considering how expensive they will probably be. Can't imagine the license plate being nicer than the actual car.
     
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