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Greetings,

I am currently studying for the OCP Java SE 8 exam. I already passed the OCA Java SE 8. What would be more appropiate?

  1. Taking the exam for OCP Java SE 8 and then the upgrade exam to OCP Java SE 11 (1Z0-817)?, or

  2. Not taking the exam for OCP Java SE 8 and do the Java SE 11 sequence instead (1Z0-815 and 1Z0-816).


Any advice would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.
 
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Esteban Villar wrote:Greetings,

I am currently studying for the OCP Java SE 8 exam. I already passed the OCA Java SE 8. What would be more appropiate?


  1. Taking the exam for OCP Java SE 8 and then the upgrade exam to OCP Java SE 11 (1Z0-817)?, or

  2. Not taking the exam for OCP Java SE 8 and do the Java SE 11 sequence instead (1Z0-815 and 1Z0-816).


Any advice would be very much appreciated.

Thanks.


I would go with the first option because that way, I will get OCPJP 8 cert after one exam and another OCPJP 11 cert after the second.

In the second option, you will need to take both the exams before you get any certification.
 
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Welcome to the Ranch

Your question is different from the topic of its original location, so it merits a thre‍ad of its own.
 
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I just can't understand Oracle's PDF that says that an OCA 8  can do directly  Java SE 11 II (1Z0-816)
Page 4
https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/dc/ou-5021-java-se11-faq-4.pdf?intcmp=WWOUCERTBLOGECIHA032019

That was my initial plan, is there something i'm missing ?
 
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Evandro Luis Machado wrote:I just can't understand Oracle's PDF that says that an OCA 8  can do directly  Java SE 11 II (1Z0-816)
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https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/dc/ou-5021-java-se11-faq-4.pdf?intcmp=WWOUCERTBLOGECIHA032019

That was my initial plan, is there something i'm missing ?


You are right. I was not sure about whether one could take 816 after 808. But Oracle has confirmed it. You can directly go for 816 if you have cleared 808. No need to take 809.
 
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Paul Anilprem wrote:
You are right. I was not sure about whether one could take 816 after 808. But Oracle has confirmed it. You can directly go for 816 if you have cleared 808. No need to take 809.



That's really great as it looks that the new OCA exam is much harder than previous ones
 
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Adrian Grabowski wrote:

Paul Anilprem wrote:
You are right. I was not sure about whether one could take 816 after 808. But Oracle has confirmed it. You can directly go for 816 if you have cleared 808. No need to take 809.



That's really great as it looks that the new OCA exam is much harder than previous ones


1. There is no OCA exam any more for Java 11. But you can think of the OCPJD part 1 (1z0-815) to be in the same position as the old 808 exam (minus the OCA cert).
2. I wouldn't call it much harder. Just different. Here is what we think of it: https://enthuware.com/resources/oracle-java-programmer-certification-resources/ocp-java-11-1z0-815-exam-experience-feedback
 
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Evandro Luis Machado wrote:I just can't understand Oracle's PDF that says that an OCA 8  can do directly  Java SE 11 II (1Z0-816)
Page 4
https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/dc/ou-5021-java-se11-faq-4.pdf?intcmp=WWOUCERTBLOGECIHA032019

That was my initial plan, is there something i'm missing ?



These are great news since we haven't to take a deprecated exam to take the update later. I am just going to reschedule my exam to the 1Z0-816. Thanks for the info!
 
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You are lucky one to pass OCA exam. I think you must be go in practical field and not to waste time for other protocols. The expertise in a single field is much better than to learn more things with little skills.
 
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Paul Anilprem wrote:

Evandro Luis Machado wrote:I just can't understand Oracle's PDF that says that an OCA 8  can do directly  Java SE 11 II (1Z0-816)
Page 4
https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/dc/ou-5021-java-se11-faq-4.pdf?intcmp=WWOUCERTBLOGECIHA032019

That was my initial plan, is there something i'm missing ?


You are right. I was not sure about whether one could take 816 after 808. But Oracle has confirmed it. You can directly go for 816 if you have cleared 808. No need to take 809.



Hi Paul,

Any idea by when will Enthuware have mock exams for 1ZO-816 ready? I have OCA8 and I wanted to go for OCP8 this year. But reading Oracle's pdf, I realized that I only need to pass 1ZO-816 exam to get the OCP Java 11 certification. However I am worried that there is (and won't be by the end of the year) not enough preparation material for OCP11. My other option would be to go for OCP8 (because there are tons of materials on this topic including your nice mock-exams) and later (if ever) I should do the OCP11 upgrade.

Thanks and keep up the good work.
 
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R.J. Arzki wrote:

Paul Anilprem wrote:

Evandro Luis Machado wrote:I just can't understand Oracle's PDF that says that an OCA 8  can do directly  Java SE 11 II (1Z0-816)
Page 4
https://www.oracle.com/a/ocom/docs/dc/ou-5021-java-se11-faq-4.pdf?intcmp=WWOUCERTBLOGECIHA032019

That was my initial plan, is there something i'm missing ?


You are right. I was not sure about whether one could take 816 after 808. But Oracle has confirmed it. You can directly go for 816 if you have cleared 808. No need to take 809.



Hi Paul,

Any idea by when will Enthuware have mock exams for 1ZO-816 ready? I have OCA8 and I wanted to go for OCP8 this year. But reading Oracle's pdf, I realized that I only need to pass 1ZO-816 exam to get the OCP Java 11 certification. However I am worried that there is (and won't be by the end of the year) not enough preparation material for OCP11. My other option would be to go for OCP8 (because there are tons of materials on this topic including your nice mock-exams) and later (if ever) I should do the OCP11 upgrade.

Thanks and keep up the good work.



We are working on it but we do not have a release date yet. Could be a couple of months or more but definitely before the end of the year We are unable to give any date because we do not compromise on quality in the need to meet some deadline. Developing qood questions with accurate explanations is hard and we give our authors as much time as they need.


Taking OCP 8 and then OCP 11 will cost you twice the money. I think opening up of the OCP11 exam for OCA 8 cert holders is a great opportunity to acquire the latest cert at the cost of only one exam.  So, if you can wait a couple of months for the study material, take OCP 11 then.

Or, take a little bit of risk, study new topics on your own and apear for OCP 11. Even if you fail, you will know what you are missing. You will be able to pass in the second attempt. Will cost you the same as OCP 8 + OCP 11. I don't see any downside either way

 
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Paul Anilprem wrote:
We are working on it but we do not have a release date yet. Could be a couple of months or more but definitely before the end of the year We are unable to give any date because we do not compromise on quality in the need to meet some deadline. Developing qood questions with accurate explanations is hard and we give our authors as much time as they need.


Taking OCP 8 and then OCP 11 will cost you twice the money. I think opening up of the OCP11 exam for OCA 8 cert holders is a great opportunity to acquire the latest cert at the cost of only one exam.  So, if you can wait a couple of months for the study material, take OCP 11 then.

Or, take a little bit of risk, study new topics on your own and apear for OCP 11. Even if you fail, you will know what you are missing. You will be able to pass in the second attempt. Will cost you the same as OCP 8 + OCP 11. I don't see any downside either way



Thank you Paul for the answer. In my current situation the cost is not an issue, since my company is paying for me to get certified. However, I have to pass this year

In this post: https://coderanch.com/t/708409/certification/Java-certification-exam-relevant-OCA Jeanne Boyarsky recommends to stick to OCA/OCP8 for at least one more year until materials are available for the new exams.
 
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