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What is the path in without having an internship?

 
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I was hoping an internship with college would be the way to get my foot in the door as a figure of speech.   However, I've literally applied to every single one of them and don't have anything, not even as much as an initial phone screen.  

I'm a graduate student with a 3.5 GPA, have a bachelor's and an associate's, an OCA certification, and projects in my GitHub profile, and it is not yielding anything.  Not even an internship for students graduating at the end of the year.  

What kind of worries me is a lot of these new programmers going to these scam places like Revature just to get something started because they feel it is their only way.  

The only other thing I'm doing is continuing to create new projects and starting to learn new frameworks and scripting, hopefully that maybe I'll have something to go with.  However, it seems nobody will hire without working experience, and I don't know how to get experience because low paying internships are about as low as you can get to find on the job experience, and I cannot even get hired for those.

I anticipate finishing my degree by November.  
 
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what does your school counselor say about this? what do your professors say about it? if you haven't asked them, you should. i think you're going to be OK if you don't find an internship, just make up a resume and start sending it out for jobs, not internships.
 
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S Fox wrote:what does your school counselor say about this? what do your professors say about it? if you haven't asked them, you should. i think you're going to be OK if you don't find an internship, just make up a resume and start sending it out for jobs, not internships.



The school is 100% online, so I really don't have any contact with anyone.   The counselors are academic advisers, but don't really know anything about the subject of programming or at least not much.
 
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That is the problem with online learning. Round here we have careers advisers who know all about that sort of thing.
 
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What is the path in without having an internship?



Do an internship after graduating
 
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I'm graduating this year and have been looking what's available out there, applied for only few jobs and some internships that didn't require a degree and it looks like it'll be much easier to get a "normal" job. Companies that advertise the internships ignore me, in some cases, I couldn't even complete their online forms as they didn't recognise A-levels equivalents from a different country. Even the company that I work for turned me down Applying for jobs is completely different, I was able to get much further, had to stop now for personal reasons but will start searching soon.

I do online learning too but we have career advisers there, I can't say that it's any different than a normal brick uni.
 
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Adrian Grabowski wrote:. . . Applying for jobs is completely different, I was able to get much further . . .

It's like that here too; most people go to jobs rather than internships. In fact the University frown on unpaid internships. Most people do an industrial placement for their 3rd year, which gives them good experience to find a job from.
 
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When trying to find an entry level job, it helps to have some experience. Since  you don't have an internship, consider doi9ng a volunteer project for a friend/relative/community center. That way you have something to show.
 
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I have some experience doing some basic GUI applications, and in addition have a Java certification from Oracle to show I know the language.  I'm trying to work on different websites and utilize Spring Boot as well as front end skills and add them to my GitHub.  

Many internships want you to be enrolled and are only in the summer.   I'm graduating in October, meaning over seven months will go by before new ones open up, so I was hoping there were other paths that didn't require to be experienced with nearly every language, framework, and API that exists.  
 
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