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Sybex CSG online test bank time compared to 819 time?

 
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Jeanne and/or Scott,

The are a number of options to select from the online test bank.  Options include Study or Exam Mode, etc etc etc. In Exam Mode, how do the selected options, and most importantly, the resulting time, as a result of those selected options, compare to the time granted on 819?  Or is there any correlation at all?  

For example, I was not able to get through the end of chapter questions for Chapter 12 in 25 minutes for the given 25 questions.  As you know, most, if not all, of your code questions are difficult  in that they always use "Select All" with one or more of the options being "Line X does not compile" and/or "The code does not compile."   Although that helps to toughen us up, or possibly be deflating if/when we can't complete everything as we should within the test bank time allowed (although I can continue to work past the indicated time I may add), is it representative?  

Or would I need to count on the actual bonus practice exam questions, instead of the end of chapter questions, in an attempt to better mimic the actual exam and its granted maximum time allowed?  

Of course, I raise the issue after you documented your experiences.

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Charles

   
 
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Hi Guys:

I'd like to second this as a great question, tho harder to answer than "will this compile?" or "Why does this throw an exception?"

I recall seeing a post from one of the helpful people around here who seemed to be able to answer literally any question but described themselves as a "turtle".

It does appear that neither a turtle nor a tortoise is going to be able to pass the 819 easily because the time is seemingly really tight, even if given more time they'd get 100%.

I went thru an education (Engineering School) where most of the exams, you could "know everything" but still fail because you had to be fast, fast, fast.  I managed to do it somehow.

So on behalf of people who seem to be scoring pretty high but often taking over the amounts of time limits we'd expect, how much we would have to be cutting down our time per question to have a decent chance of passing.

The question seems to be as the OP phrased it "I can get the answers right to the end-of-chapter questions, but I am averaging over two minutes each -- will I be toast on the real test or do many of your end-of-chapter questions take longer to answer correctly than most 819 test questions?"

I've read about earlier incarnations of the test where people had the same concerns, that either were, or were not, a big problem to complete the real exams in time, depending on the test version.

Some mock tests have been described as more difficult (intentionally) than the real exams they targeted because "Unlike the real test, we do not tell you the correct number of answers to check" to ensure adequate preparation.

Your posts and a couple of others made clear that the new format means you may have studied some topics thoroughly, others less thoroughly and in that case luck will matter more, as which topics get hit is based on a smaller number of draws from a larger pool.  We all just have to deal with that, and if you manage to study everything equally well, the luck factor decreases.

All of the previous estimates of time pressure for earlier mock tests versus actual tests are useful to understand the ideas, and it is clear that people who had small or no time to spare on prior real tests are going to be racing the clock on the 819.

My general approach is to first learn all the materially really well, so I am not sitting there thinking and trying to remember stuff that could be memorized cold, that seems to be necessary.

It would be impossible to answer this definitively, of course, as there are too many variables, but a satisfactory answer would look something like:
"We can't guarantee anything, but you need to try to get your answer times for end-of-chapter exercises down under two minutes to have a good chance of finishing the 819 test without putting A A A A A for the last questions."

Thanks,
Jesse

 
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Only the practice exams are meant to have any timing. The others are for you to get good at answering correctly!
 
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