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I thought after watching a few seasons of Derry Girls that my ears had been tuned for the Londonderry accent, but then I saw this video:

 
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There are some wild accents round these parts right enough. That's up there with the 'best' of them though.
 
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That makes even the worst Geordie or pit‑yacker as clear as crystal.
 
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When we moved from England to Northern Ireland we hired a removals guy from Ahoghill, which is up near Ballymena. I barely understood a word he said but he moved our stuff so it didn't much matter. I just hoped I nodded and laughed at the appropriate times during conversation.
 
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I've never been to the States but I have been to LA. That was a bit over twenty years ago, shortly after the notorious election with chads and the film Billy Elliott. People were surprised when I said that Elliott who comes from Billingham didn't have “dialect coaching” but couldn't talk pit‑yacker, “well, the place is ten miles away.” People were surprised that accents would vary over such a short distance. 'Enry 'Iggins was wrong saying he could tell to the street where somebody lived from the way they spoke; it is hardly possible to pin down accents closer than the nearest quarter‑mile.
 
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I'm convinced there are no young Northern Irish people. Just old crusty sea folk that somehow have retained their youthful looks.

Many years ago I went to Portrush which is on the northern coast of Northern Ireland. We went there in the middle of winter, and recall being that cold only once or twice in my life. I guess it didn't help that we were staying in an attic that wasn't well isolated. It was a great trip though, and I had the best Beef Wellington I ever tasted right there.
 
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Portrush is beautiful, I love it up there. There's a great fish and chip restaurant in the beach at portstewart strand which I'm looking forward to visiting when we're allowed.
 
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I've noticed that a lot of intelligibility can come even when you know the words and the grammar just from different patterns of stress.

I had a Latino guy come in a couple of years back to fix my alarm system and he was wandering around muttering about "madness". Everywhere he went, it was "madness".

I finally realized that the actual word was magnets. Some Spanish consonants are pronounced with considerable less force than in English, to the point where if I don't concentrate, it tends to sound to me like a series of m's and n's and vowels. And I was raised in a Spanish environment for 3 years.

So when people swallow their t's, get their g's stuck halfway up their noises, drop vowels down into the cellar, it's hardly surprising that they might was well be speaking Martian.
 
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The guy seems to have slowed down, maybe to help others understand him better.  

It's fun being bilingual as you can quickly switch into an uncomprehensible language to confuse those (southerners) from outside the area.  Or just drop the odd native word/phrase in for a  delayed effect.  Had never heard the term "pit‑yacker" before but sort of fits with the other terms for the regions ("smoggy", "monkey hanger*", "macum", "sand dancer" etc).        

I did find that in the US they tend to think you are speaking Welsh.  

*During the Napoleonic wars, they really did hang a [poor] monkey.  More recently they elected a monkey mascot as a town mayor, then kept re-electing him.  
 
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Historically, pigs have been hanged. Also cats and dogs, I believe.

In the USA, though, we elect our monkeys to high office.
 
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Tim Holloway wrote:. . . In the USA, though, we elect our monkeys to high office.

Since that post was dated 20th January, it makes me wonder whether you meant the old chap, or the new chap only just sworn in, or both.
 
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The thing is that particular monkey did a decent job, and got himself re-elected twice.  He did, unlike the US monkey, stop all the monkey antics (like getting drunk and thrown out of football matches) once in public office.  I believe the post was removed before he could be elected for a third term, I guess they didn't like his independent stance.  Also, folks in the UK were cooking "Bitter Orange Tart" as it was yesterdays (Jan 20th) recipe of the day - no idea why.  

 
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You know the monkey had to go to Teesside to be hanged? Paul Stephenson, who died last year and who was heavily into local history, told us once that there was no assize at H********l so they took it to S******n where the nearest assize was. Of course that was before industrialisation and (not sure) I don't think the title smoggie had been introduced.
About ten years ago I phoned the water company about 3am because the road surface was 3″ higher than it usually is, and there were signs of a possible burst pipe, i.e. lots and lots of water everywhere. I was worried that the road surface had lifted and we all know this part of the world is built on compressed mud and who knows? At 3.30 the road surface might be 3′ lower than usual and that could cause a nasty accident it the road wasn't coned off.
A few weeks later they had the navvies out digging a dirty great hole to find said water pipe. One of them was upset because he came from H********l and everybody thought he was from S*******nd. Which all goes to prove it is much better to be a Monkey‑Hanger than a Mackem.
I have never seen it spelt Macum, but I have seen the term Pitmatic for how they speak in a certain area only 20 miles from here. Pitmatic appears in Wikipedia, also called yakka

By bilingual, did you mean English and Geordie? My younger daughter used to go on camps inhabited by people from all parts of the country and got annoyed because people called here a Geordie. (She can speak fluent Geordie if she has to.) I remember one trip to Geordieland (the Toon itself) when I passed about a dozen people speaking something incomprehensible. “It's true that Geordie is a different language,” I thought, until about 15″ later another brain cell woke up and what they were saying became crystal‑clear. In French.

I found an Oxford English Dictionary link saying the word “smog” is early 20th century origin, so smoggie must be more recent.
 
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Peter Rooke wrote:. . . that particular monkey did a decent job . . . the post was removed before he could be elected for a third term . . .

We had to make do with Robocop, but (I think) we were the only town to vote for retention of the mayor's position when H'angus lost his job. There was a very small turnout for that referendum, but a large majority.
 
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Campbell Ritchie wrote:

Tim Holloway wrote:. . . In the USA, though, we elect our monkeys to high office.

Since that post was dated 20th January, it makes me wonder whether you meant the old chap, or the new chap only just sworn in, or both.



I did use the plural form, and you needn't restrict yourself to recent history, either.

Of course, if it's irony you want, I see the Moose has been be-headed today in honour of a failed king.
 
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Yeah, sorry it's Mackem.  But as you pointed out, much to their annoyance most folk in the region get called "Geordies".  Poor monkey being taken' to mackem-land and hung as it could not understand them - oh the irony ;-)

Yes, I think I can speak Geordie and also English however like most who have worked away; sounds too "posh" in the toon (Newcastle) and too "broad" everywhere else.    

Was robocop as bad as the prince of darkness?  At a local fish and chip shop; "Can I also have a tub of that guacamole [avocado dip] please?"  - "You what?... you want mushy peas?"  
 
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Peter Rooke wrote:"You what?... you want mushy peas?"  



Yes, I do. But I found that in England they are both pronounced and flavoured differently in the North versus the South. And no amount of asking for "mooshy peas" in the South would get me the vinegary variety.
 
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Paul Clapham wrote:. . . And no amount of asking for "mooshy peas" in the South would get me the vinegary variety.

Last time I lived in Southern England, nobody had even seen mushy peas.
 
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Peter Kay - Chippie Tea
- I noticed that youtube subtitles don't seem to be able to translate "Yorkshire".  
 
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Peter Rooke wrote:. . . I noticed that youtube subtitles don't seem to be able to translate "Yorkshire".  

I hope that's GirBot mistaking him for a Yorkshireman. If not: Keep that very quiet . . . or don't cross the Tees
 
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Campbell Ritchie wrote:

Paul Clapham wrote:. . . And no amount of asking for "mooshy peas" in the South would get me the vinegary variety.

Last time I lived in Southern England, nobody had even seen mushy peas.



I could nip around to the corner grocery here and pick you up a tin of Batchelors, if you like.

Have to go to Aldi for Jaffa Cakes, though.

And make my own sausage rolls. Although the fixingd here have to be baked on a rack over a pan or they'll end up in a lake of grease.

On the other hand, I don't know that you could score a decent Southern Style sausage or ham biscuit in the UK, so there's that.

I'd like a Scotch Egg, though.
 
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Scotch eggs require a thread all to themselves.
 
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Tim Holloway wrote:. . . I could nip around to the corner grocery . . . .

I usually wait till I buy hot pies and get peas with them: with vinegar and mint sauce, of course.
What brand Jaffa Cakes are they? Ruth thinks Aldi Jaffa Cakes are better then the original brand.
 
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